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Recently New York State has started a pilot program in which ambulances responding.
To cardiac arrests will be shadowed by -- -- specifically to pick up organs from those who died in the ambulances.
As it stands now the rule is a person must die in a hospital before his organ can be used for -- transplant.
Here's a radical thought it's your body you all your own body.
So should you be allowed to sell your organs if you want to and if it was medically safe.
Last year only about 40% of those in need of a kidney actually got one.
My next guest is one of the lucky few -- did receive a kidney.
She argues there'd be more survivors like our of kidney disease if people could sell their kidneys.
Joining me now is kidney receiver and author of when altruism isn't enough.
The case for compensating kidney donors doctor Sally so tell from the American Enterprise Institute doctors to tell welcome here.
You -- -- a medical doctor you're an MD and you're a psychiatrist.
And you were in needed the kidney.
How did you get it.
It took me about a year to find one.
I lived in Washington DC where if I waited on the national waiting list would -- waited up to ten years chances are people can die.
-- waiting that long.
Fortunately a friend Virginia class value -- -- -- -- -- travel regularly appears on this show is fierce defender of human liberty and the wonderful glorious Virginia hospital.
Heard that I needed a kidney and she gave me now how are organs harvested and how is it that the government.
Has taken control of something as vital as the need for a body.
The organs are usually harvested after someone -- declared brain dead this typically happens in the hospital.
The family is approached even -- a person signs -- organ donor card and says I want again.
If their family.
The sides at the time of death that they can't bear the thought of -- they they can actually override.
The person's decision not just for hospitals and a very if he did it.
Position you can imagine right you know bring you know we need a body but I find it -- that does that -- what happened or what what do you say to those who would argue and and again I fully agree with you that if we allow body parts -- -- sold that only the -- would get the body parts and the -- -- -- and -- well first let me say I'm a poster girl for altruism Virginia -- else.
So I'm all for that and I believe that would continue on.
And also true meaning you would go to a friend and say this is the greatest gift you can give me and we are compatible and this is what I'd like you to do.
-- family members of and compete who you know which which -- -- -- give the parent would be organ part but how about it how about this argument that folks will weigh in on a family member if you don't have a friend and I can I was -- -- you don't have the money what do you -- and that was -- and that's frankly I wanted to buy one at first because.
No one was coming -- But the point is we're actually I say we have worked with -- loose network of other's positions and economists and lawyers.
We're not talking about a fully free market.
Right we're talking about perhaps a tax credit of government regulated system.
That actually uses the infrastructure.
And the and the allocation system that's already in place.
So for example tomorrow you could decide you're so moved by on conversation that you wanna give an organ to -- you go to NYU.
They check you for medical and psychiatric conditions and you do it there's a special spot in heaven for you.
All we're talking about is do the same thing but you can get a tax -- -- what tax credit.
Means that the poor the desperate.
Poor person won't be attracted to such a system okay.
Would people's lives received.
If the government allowed the free market without tax credit.
To affect the sale and use of -- rather than putting people on less than ten years -- I I really have no question that what happened ultimately will need to see of course but there's every reason to think that if we -- -- donors we would have more of them do you remember when the great baseball.
Hero Mickey Mantle and he is an organ and yes I think at the bottom of the list somehow gotten dumped in the top people don't like people.
People were upset with things like that happen.
If the free market control.
Well again in our plan no because it still would be the next person on.
The list would get served Mickey Mantle we have to he -- deliver.
Things are little different when you need -- liver and heart the sicker you are you do go to the top of the list of the kidney list which is much longer it's 85% of all people waiting.
That is by first come first and only have a few more seconds -- more lives be saved if the free market work well.
More lives would be saved and the black market would be destroyed doctors to tell thank god you're alive and happy healthy and well.
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