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I met this decade will be the warmest on record turning out to be the big news from Copenhagen today not a problem -- -- the international official making those claims are using data partly compiled by the scientists.
At the center of climate gate they're also using NASA -- all data that was compiled by climate unit led by doctor James -- who may be surprised to learn.
That -- has been accused by former NASA officials including a supervisor of using quote useless models to create a worldwide media frenzy.
-- was actually recently arrested for protesting against the coal plant in West Virginia.
So our scientists like -- crossing the line.
And are these computer models using folks like him.
On the basis of which trillions of dollars of our money might be used eventually joining us now.
Don Blankenship CEO of Massey Energy this is the coal company.
That Hanssen was arrested protesting.
And Myron bell he is director of energy and global warming policy at the Competitive Enterprise Institute which by always been denied numerous freedom of information requests.
By -- good to have you both on -- first do you tell us a little more about mr.
-- Well James Hansen is an astronomer whose specialty is the climate of Venus.
He's often described as the world's leading climate scientists I don't think this is remotely true but he is certainly the world's leading scientific.
Alarmist about global warming and of course he's he's making a spectacle of himself all over the world not not not just in West Virginia he's.
He's going Iran he advised the people in Britain that they should commit.
Acts of Civil Disobedience to close -- coal fired power plant he protested in West Virginia he's.
He's a little bit kooky I think.
Well and -- made it must have be upsetting to you do you have a person who was -- crested.
At your very plans.
To be a person on whose on whose back a lot of this researchers now based.
Think that does some of those that have paid attention to those men -- -- longtime.
actions should big part of -- Well you know leave the funny thing is -- that he actually admitted to Scientific American I guess is about four years ago.
That he had at one time deliberately exaggerated.
The dangers of global warming and I -- quota now he said emphasis on extreme scenarios.
May have been appropriate at one time when the -- and decision makers were relatively unaware of the global warming issue so he's essentially admitted.
That he did what climate gate we're finding out did a thousand times over.
Yes that's right you know.
Doctor Hansen is the head of this small unit up -- -- the university that's part of Nassau.
They they have one of the mean temperature data sets along with the one in England and Phil Jones -- headed the CRU who's now taken a leave of absence from his.
Job because of this huge scandal and one of the emails he says well you know our data set has a lot of problems but it's it's really good in clean compared to to the one.
That it NASA gets.
That's -- enhances the charge of so I think there's a lot of shenanigans going on here I think.
You know they won't cough up the emails that we have.
Ask your Freedom of Information Act request -- to find out whether Gavin Schmidt when it -- -- employees.
Uses NASA government time in order to to do propaganda on behalf of global warming -- -- -- John do you think that because of what's happened with climate gate and the more we find out.
The people on whose a lot of this this legislation is based have have had a checkered passes to say the least.
That bet the push for a massive changes that would disrupt your industry and other and injuries energy industries in America is is is gonna fail.
Think it's -- -- bill -- don't think they're gonna quit -- the coach officials have mounted and this to them at Windmills solar panel and all the other things that they have invested in.
So you you don't you think it will fail but it will there will be a residual.
Will -- be enough to affect most businesses in the United States.
Well a little bit -- again I don't think the people who have advocated this so quit just over climate gate because -- already shown that you'll perpetrated folks so please don't give up that easily book.
Windmills solar panels and so for -- double Americans are -- little click.
Anybody who gets their power from those short solutions commercially -- fossil fuels or nuclear power under.
Myron aren't there are people even at NASA that have questioned -- and some some of whom very recently.
Yes you know I think that the the -- the jig is up here but as mr.
But it it's gonna cost us a lot of money even though they're they're probably going to fail you know at some point in a war you probably know who's gonna win but that doesn't mean that there might not be.
Hundreds of thousands of casualties before the war it's actually over.
It's I think you know we're looking at major increases in energy prices as a consequence of this.
Long alarmist campaign in -- not just the makers of solar panels these scientists have gotten.
Billions and billions of dollars in research money from federal tax money.
To promote this this a global warming scare so they are in it too.
Don Blankenship -- -- bell thank you very much channel.
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