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To steer OK now why count we go and drill for our own oil everybody wants to make America oil independent -- it would go get around.
Well -- that's that's not the issue the issue is what are you -- the consequence for doing that and do you really want oil rushing rushing up on the shores of Florida and and even the -- and governance have found that people don't want that that's not anything -- think about.
While that's the basic issue no oil and now here's what stop us from going -- loyal I don't know I don't think so.
No I think -- the lethal if the environmentalist who believe that oil is bad not just because of oil spills but because it is a fossil fuel and our point has consistently -- But the man made global warming theory is breaking down and environmental positions wouldn't.
Hope Stewart isn't breaking down because some snowstorms glass -- no -- because of that have you been following the professor Phil Jones the man who organized the -- to the UN climate conference.
He's just said the Middle Ages -- warmer than that -- now how -- that happened before industrialized nation.
He said -- great difficulty in measuring temperature a 10200 years ago to a tenth of a degree.
And he says there's been no appreciable warming in the last fifteen years as that was supposed debate that there is racing -- It's not breaking -- spirit you're first of all what you wanna do is measure these things over the last century or half -- and there's no question we have seen.
Global climate change to the warming over that period as we've seen more industrialization.
And we've seen more carbon -- that exposed the atmosphere then we have to take -- -- how do you write back I mean gosh you're just you're just having a political argument and I want to go back to.
-- -- in the hundreds of years this month I can -- don't have any question if it's scientific argument.
How could you have the -- in medieval times much warmer than it is now the window -- -- of these 500 years ago there are no popular we don't run.
Stewart we don't know all the factors what we ignore the factors that are higher over the -- was now on we have been told -- the -- the science is and there's no debate Daniel -- what Clinton that there is no debate that's why am amazed that what you're doing here you're going back hundreds of years instead of looking at what's riding your faith in terms of the last fifty years in terms of climate.
Increases -- -- back.
Making this a business -- more polluted and endangering us in terms of exposure due to higher rates you know this.
Yeah and X rays coming across professor Jones who all organized the -- such for the UN climate panel conference.
Now says there is no statistical evidence of warming in the last fifteen years that was suppose that they.
Let me tell you go back over fifty years you go back over a hundred years and suddenly there's quite a bit of evidence of -- -- -- housing and you're not.
Asked before industrialized nation now.
That's you're getting you're talking hundreds and hundreds of years ago I'm surprised that you're not -- hey what about these scientists in Britain who were hyping it and and and lying in their -- that's also could be part of your -- seven god active that's the same ride out the rest of -- Well I'm telling you that -- -- -- he is.
At this point someone who's out there what we've got is clear evidence of global climate change and -- question about how we deal with -- now I'm talking to you about.
Oil that's a problem in terms of pollution I'm talking to you about oil at the time at the problem in terms of exposure to the atmosphere what it does for global warming.
Those are reasons that we are not drilling and politically let me tell you Republicans and Democrats are sensitive to -- -- -- You riled up the company and they -- to have ago and it's not want to have a -- that you why are you really Phil jones' if you are Albert Einstein.
On this there he said look -- what I was wondering medieval times if Dr.
Phil Jones at the University of East Anglia like that I have Bobby Jones from the university the Jersey Shore -- It is a million just out there with a million different opinions let me explain something.
Professor Phil Jones of the university east unveil on was the man who organized the data organized the resell it for the UN.
You -- yes I think you're just -- bit -- Of course it is super -- -- this life we live here unbelievable organization US.
At least believable organization -- Jones got to get all the information -- this climate panel in Copenhagen.
And they now want to use that report discredited as it has been.
The real -- the global economy that's what I'm saying why.
-- and Matt Stewart it's bigger than that there's more evidence than that do you wanna point out what Bill Jones is down order by I'm telling you again he may be someone that you want to question talk about but he's not the -- believe -- finally did you -- -- I don't -- -- I don't want this is Charles let's just talk about some -- that.
Realistic though okay no matter how you feel about it you know I hear everyone talking about this you'll drive a car today he'll turn electricity powered by -- this is the reality were end and we're not gonna make that transition for many years perhaps a couple decades is -- -- dumb a bus to spend so much of our hard earned money.
When we have -- all the resources that we're using anyway the hearing about the pollution aspect of it it's gonna happen we're gonna spend it we're gonna drive we need electricity since we get that from our own resources as opposed to -- -- money overseas.
Yeah I'm -- -- and I might add to your argument -- that there is a national security element here it be better to be reliant on domestic energy sources rather than.
Putting money into people who often somehow we finally get terrorist though let's go -- wholeheartedly what -- -- say the bit that the vice President Obama.
Well that's why President Obama this very -- is talking about opening new nuclear.
Energy facilities it's why you have people talking about offering loan guarantees for.
People who look active incentives for people to not in fact put more carbon into the air.
That's what's going on looking to clean energy.
Green jobs to spur the economy and it might I might -- it will help in terms -- other countries coming to the US of that technology.
Because oil is that you know the limit in limited supply.
Just one final point one.
The American wind industry association says the total number of jobs in the wind industry in America direct and indirect.
Is only 85000.
You could triple the number of people employed in the wind industry and get absolutely no way.
Well I I I think Boone Pickens might have -- the thing about this -- Stewart back.
Boone Pickens thinks that there's many more jobs in doubt but let's go beyond when they need to go to solar.
You can go to nuclear they're all these different alternatives we don't just have to talk about oil but -- But it's decades.
Win and nuclear will make any appreciable contribution to -- and energy resource and -- decades long.
-- by the -- -- think therefore that we shouldn't start in other words this is an argument.
That we says -- you know what therefore let -- just remain where we are rather than trying to look Nokia and you know -- that.
Now that's not what was I going to.
I think is the -- here -- that at some point we got to fess up and own up to this that it's going to happen so when do we start getting involved in it and unfortunately -- It is gonna take a long time even have a lot of naysayers out there that -- continue to come out of the woodwork.
But we all know that something is happening I made it very clear I stopped using awkward and -- break.
But is shocking environment and people have to start making it 111 point we have national security -- -- line we have to do this slow and steady.
But we have to do it right -- we invited to on this program your valued -- you get the last but he got -- Well I want to use Aqua net I'm upset now that I know.
-- but my final point if you know I think that that there's no question we have been slow to clear the importance of energy independence.
Now the argument becomes one between.
How do we go about it but I think the Obama administration making this effort with nuclear energy is reaching across some of these lines that not just partisan lines but ideological I think we have to.
That's really good news that I'm with you all the way on nuclear now I just wanna see some -- now as well but they go on Williams -- spirit.
Who can't hear you got a lot to it and always a pleasure and thanks very much ability so today thank you want.
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