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The make up of the new White House staff continues to take shape with President Obama making several additions in the last few days William Daley is the new White House chief of staff.
And Gene Sperling takes over as director of the National Economic Council.
What do these changes due to the president's agenda and his reelection bid in 2012.
Here with the answers as Karl Rove the former senior advisor and deputy chief of staff to George W.
And the author of the book courage and conscience consequence which is now available in paperback with a new chapter called.
Obama the myth welcome -- great seeing him.
Our -- talk about these new additions William Daley I gotta tell you a Wall Street cheered -- so excited he's coming in what does it mean.
It's a big change.
It's it's located at first -- it is not a replacement of -- Obama -- the Clinton night we have Rahm Emmanuel who was Clinton's night.
Daily as an adult and I suspect his instincts are gonna run against several trends we've seen in this administration.
Would -- it and White House chief of staff and the senior -- the president have to sign off on every presidential speech.
We're not going to be seeing the kind of demonization of business in anti business class warfare rhetoric in the -- prepared remarks we've been seen before.
Bailey's instincts are bipartisan cooperation and in negotiation.
This administration thus far -- be interested.
His instinct is going to be let's keep talking to people not doing you know the president what fourteen months without a 101 -- with senator McConnell the leader of the senate Republicans.
And the White House would fought nearly half a year without any contact at all with Republican leader announced.
That's not have daily -- big dailies also gonna wanna get the White House seems a lot more dirty and actually fashioning this legislation -- the congress'.
Who liked about Obama thus far -- he sort of said.
Go radically you know a cap and trade bill -- -- stimulus bill go writing healthcare bill and I'll be happy to sign it when your finished but has not been involved in the nitty gritty of the of the of of of of work of shaping it out and I think that that runs counter to Bailey's instincts so.
If the president says I want you to run this place in the way that I think you want to run it that is probably good thing but but now we'll have to see if the president really was Cinderella.
I wonder how likely that is and I was surprised frankly that he didn't give an economic position his chief of staff.
Which is very different and certainly -- a big signal to business.
It does had a big signal an -- again that you -- president was forced in the in by circumstances.
During the lame duck session to negotiate with Republicans because -- he -- negotiate with the Republicans.
Taxes we're gonna go up on January 1 in the -- and he knew the bad and the -- to the economy in -- political fortunes of that would make.
But he has no similar event forcing deadlines in the future so the question going to be what is he actually do.
And if he wants to get reelected he'll continue you know he'll let it didn't Bailey's instincts you know dominate.
But we'll see and that's the interesting thing and there's a player in all of this was not gotten the attention that it that he used to do in my opinion he probably doesn't want the attention.
And that is the -- White House chief of staff -- grass because -- was detailed by the president to come up with a plan.
And look we really don't know what goes -- he goes on data -- inside the inner sanctum of the White House.
But it strikes me that.
-- -- usual -- guys the interim White House chief of staff says.
Don't make me the -- -- White House chief of staff bring in a big dog so many much bigger in profile than me in order to do it.
And second of all I don't think it was an accident Robert Gibbs left before the president offered daily the job.
Because what I think Rouse did was is part of this White House plan to say to the president we need -- in several places and one place that we need an upgrade.
Is in the press secretary's office which is unusual because.
What he's saying in essence to the president as we did -- take people that you're personally close to would have been by your side for number yours in tough fights and for your sake of the country say we need to movable.
He said -- wasn't -- the Clinton pack -- isolate the Gene Sperling is what do you expect out of spiraling well sperling also remember the -- but he's also an Obama like he's been at the Obama Treasury Department -- is replacing another Clinton night.
Larry Summers who is it it was in -- it was in the Obama White House for the first -- I'm not sure that we're gonna see much different on that front I think it's going to be more a question of daily.
In what he does to determine -- difference -- how the White House deals with congress sperling has been a part of the president's economic team if there was something new and different there.
I think we would have gotten a different personality rather than somebody who's been a key key cog in this machine so it.
So many people changing jobs and you've been in the White House what does this mean for a sitting president to have so much turmoil -- there to some degree there is always to turn over because working in the White House is like drinking from a fire -- for the average tenure of senior White House it is about eighteen months.
Earlier this year when we -- we saw the change in November of 09 wasn't -- General Counsel Greg Craig leaving.
But we had a change they would be director I wasn't surprised but you don't take a look at -- we have the president's chief of staff gone to deputy chiefs of staff Jim Messina and -- motorists unfilled leaving you would do the campaign you have David Axelrod departing replaced by David -- -- questions about Valerie Jarrett you have gives out you have questions about the political director past Patrick gas party of the director of public engagement.
Which is a key part of this White House leaving to become the chief of staff to the fourth chief of staff.
To the -- the First Lady so lots of changes far more than did -- -- ought to go on right now.
In fact I took a look every morning the senior staff meets at a place called the Roosevelt room one of the only two meeting rooms in the -- -- They're 23 seats in the Roosevelt room unless you bring in some extra chairs.
I sort of tried to reconstruct who's coming and going in there will be next month in all likelihood there could be as few as.
Five people who were there two years ago and as few as seven people who were there a year ago out of 23 -- big change big change changes they.
I have to talk to about this op Ed piece he had.
In the Wall Street Journal this week saying that Obama care of the waivers that are being issued freely just friends of Obama who are getting a lot of -- waivers to unions being over represented.
Of eleven I didn't say that -- that -- -- -- Obama Frazier gave most of the waivers but look for example these waivers to these so called mini med plans these are low cost.
Low annual outlays by the ensure.
Plans are provided particularly forcing the fast food industry and so forth.
-- -- the 4222.
43 of -- more unions 1500000.
Plus workers covered -- -- over 525000.
Were unionized workers.
Unionized workers or 7% of the workforce but they got over a third of the waivers.
Now that that's stakes and then the other things that are being done -- law particularly to benefit the AARP.
Put out a chunk of the 121 million dollar spent on advertising in favor of health care.
In a lobbying budget point one million dollars in 2009.
And they've got all kinds of benefits that are codified either law or regulation.
They treat them differently than health insurers.
You're beaten up -- the AARP they represent old people come on they -- mark.
In -- organization that it sells things to all people they're not there this is this is a this is that this is a one of the biggest if not the single biggest pressure group in Washington.
And it makes most of its money it makes more money from selling insurance sponsoring -- insurance to its members.
Why health insurance to its members that he gets from membership dues grants and private contributions combined.
If you had and then the other services and sell seniors.
What they get from in the way of membership dues is a small percentage of their income is from selling things to seniors that they get marketing organization -- marketing organization masquerading as a social welfare group.
Karl -- fascinating conversation thanks for coming on the show thanks for him.
And what we come back.
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