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I was just maybe not the time.
I think I've got that right there anyway aborted for it to -- -- right up to Massachusetts Democrat -- but -- election would love that so many who did that come with me.
Are now under terms of frank too that.
Security push -- the -- -- -- your colleagues and they -- why do you -- eleven.
Well first I don't support measures that would single us out.
There are unfortunate Obama people here.
There was one proposal that.
No one would be about to carry a weapon within a thousand feet of a federal.
I would have to send out a signal so of people governor thousand -- -- -- -- to drop their guns.
I don't think around the clock protection is a good idea beyond that though you know those are good thing in west wing that I hope people learn from.
And any time there was an involvement in west wing -- of of the president's security.
And they would talk to the Secret Service they would adamantly say we won't discuss security and I think that's right.
You don't wanna look like through.
Belligerent -- -- challenging people and on the other hand if you like taking additional measures the rest do you wanna do.
This about the people who might be it shouldn't violence you know about them so I really do not think security -- to be discussed much we are all committed to maintaining access.
And that no I don't think there ought to be an enormous expenditure of drugs it was a terrible thing to Gabby Giffords shot in the other people what what were murdered.
But I don't think that rises to the level where we need 24 hour protection at the enormous expense that would be involved in and and singling us out from other people in the societies.
I guess the reason for singling guys like you out.
Congress and is that things happen where other people get hurt -- at a events normally nodded at building behind a couple had been an editor times.
Last summer it was done -- -- -- is gonna his security before finally got through.
-- must have been CNN security people but the point is that they you that you're relatively protected and in that -- and compounds in around the capital.
That's the argument is it's it's anyone's guess when you go out.
In the general so to speak and that's something should be done -- do you think that is the case.
Well obviously when they gave you that super fresh doesn't that they knew you affair and other different make sure you -- balance -- That up -- But beyond that yeah I think the capital ought to be protected by the way I give a great deal of credit to the security people.
They have been a wonderful job since September 11 of maintaining security without.
Denying access this is the capital of a great democracy.
And people have a right -- he almost an obligation to come if she doesn't talk much and -- -- there's occasional inconvenience but I think the -- -- it on to capitol police to a wonderful job.
But we're now and -- -- it's -- to do more together to -- when you're talking about around the clock everywhere we go.
No I think that is that is excessive and -- -- it is a terrible thing that happened in no one should be.
Careless about this.
But we -- over state this either we're not all under siege.
It was a terrible thing these these murders and shootings of Gabby Giffords.
But I I don't think we want to give in to work.
What seems to me to be excessive panic.
Good for you could -- -- switch gears if you don't mind -- I spoke to lunar Republican colleague but Frank Wolf a little while ago.
As a different definition of earmarks but he says that.
You know they should all go away towards the -- refrain get a little it differently saying that you know.
The summit is it -- is vital spending.
Who was an exception to what is typically -- -- and I know how it goes one man's earmark dozens of vital program.
But but I -- -- trying to get through -- failed miserably doing so with.
Why can't it stand an up or down vote why does it have to be Republican or.
No I didn't trip you know we've got good that bill I would -- -- and I -- some that did debate respectful and the 11.
Sort of grammatical -- -- like you said at -- they're not -- on the the overall amount it set to earmarked.
Do not add to the total it then becomes whether a -- a highway project should be.
Directed by the members of congress Joseph -- the bureaucrats -- say that because I came from a state that's usually come from.
Where the bureaucrats federal and state of all the federal highway money and they put it to these Big -- And on the -- -- the state where we're starting some question to me but I do agree that should be about and by the way let's give credit to one -- my colleague Jeff flake because thanks to Jeff flake.
Many of those earmarks are voted on and I do believe that whatever the -- -- by which we debate and appropriations bill could I would I am for allowing.
Mean to listen to my constituents -- -- -- -- the highway money here rather -- -- -- -- but I think that should be subject to a vote and Jeff flake has offered dozens of amendment.
A lot of people always vote against the board vote for them I've had a mixed record I voted.
Against most of the members have voted for some so I very much agree that any specific designation.
Within the overall amount quarter be subject to -- you're a roll call vote for anybody wants to offer an amendment.
That's interest in what you're what you're saying is we're both very balanced.
-- -- I don't want to really just -- you aren't on out it's probably a good -- all but -- parents I.
Little -- it's earmarks I guess in the bigger sense is that.
While their total amounts as you've indicated passed a relatively small.
The fear is that there that it is that is that sits by which you buy it much more expensive legislation.
Do we need that at all do you need to have the.
Well -- alternative.
-- -- -- do we tugboat which ideally done.
It's -- question -- -- some things should be nationally uniform -- I don't wanna have separate Medicare or put social security policy.
Total comes to highway construction probably -- -- example health.
I have a district which in the north has some of the best medical care in the world -- the Greater Boston area but in the southern part.
For a variety of economic reasons there's inadequate healthcare so -- have pushed for.
Designated funding within the overall amount to support community health centers.
Done that and here's -- deal if we don't do with the administration does and I understand it is sometimes used to -- support.
But think back to Lyndon Johnson.
Because if it if there are no congressional statement then everything about where the highway -- Whether grant goes and win the who gets it it's up to the executive branch so it would still be useful legislation.
But it would be used by the president to get support for his legislation rather than it being among ourselves.
Finally on the debt ceiling we're getting very close to bumping up against -- yet again.
I think you were among those -- to get him on the -- the democratic side.
Go ahead and and and and may be calling the Republicans on the us see what they do you believe voting against raising -- but what you update me on on your views on this.
What do you do well I'd say this but I objected to some of the Republicans acting that this was some -- they were doing not I would vote for straight.
Extension I wouldn't vote -- -- response have -- but -- this something people she -- forgotten we are at war.
There are a 100000.
People out in Afghanistan being shot.
Now in 95 we didn't have that and the question -- well I couldn't get like these I couldn't get into the national park.
I cannot believe that people are seriously talking about shutting down the government.
When we have troops in the field do we tell the Taliban to take it shouldn't come back in two weeks.
That literally guys I think people haven't focused on this and when the Republicans -- to me well will agree to vote.
The debt limit if you'll do this the first place I voted against Iraq War I didn't -- much of a dentist earlier this.
You're right definitely president but to be -- congress and the president did vote against -- outlook 2006.
And that's why -- Republicans have Thompson announced they had -- hearing consistent.
Yes and consistently happens I will say I felt.
I know I I understand that but what I'm saying no you know I really want to get -- It's a very different situation puts -- people in the field I don't think people focus on that it is to me unthinkable.
That we would look I have supported in the pass -- resolution that said.
We want to bring troops home at six months or nine months to a year and some people mostly Republican instead of underlined the troops hope.
What doesn't do the -- if you say by the way as of a given day there's no money for the Pentagon effect.
I I'm -- -- -- -- to tell me so.
I understand and it's a legitimate issue when general.
But one we are at war which we are we haven't declared the war went up people getting shot at -- -- a difficult situation and we don't have somebody -- And even though we call -- non combat troops the bad guys don't always know that noncombat -- I don't.
-- how anybody could even contemplate.
Shutting down the government.
-- with troops in the field and and the Pentagon being necessary to keep them going.
Probably won't come to that -- -- closely Barney Frank it's or is always great having you thank you very much that.
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