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Good senators broke ranks today to cast their votes to advance the bill.
They were senators Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins both of -- from Maine and senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania.
-- no votes came from Republicans I spoke with one of them senator John Barrasso of Wyoming just a short time ago.
That's wonderful and talk to somebody in congress who has a real job you're you're an orthopedic surgeon by training.
Although you you won a special election cigar politician your own right but.
When you look at at this massive.
Stimulus bill I'm holding all 850 pages in my hand right now.
Don't you think that may be some surgery should have been applied here particularly.
To take out what the president says doesn't exist in it anymore but we still see pork in this bill why can't we -- the -- -- And you -- just need a surgeon's knife David you need an -- to get all the pork out of this proposal in his something that's actually gonna stimulate the economy and I was in Wyoming over the weekend visiting with folks and our local newspaper that endorsed the -- white paper Wyoming and endorsed the president in the election.
Even they call this is a hodgepodge of ideas it's not likely to stimulate the economy.
I'm not happy with the spending the folks in Wyoming aren't happy with the spending so I assume you're gonna vote against it.
-- voted against the cloture vote I plan to vote against on the floor on Tuesday noon all right well there as you know there.
Two I think maybe three senate Republicans who were going to be voting with the Democrats on this bill does that make a bipartisan.
Well I don't think it makes it bipartisan you know they said.
To get this through the senate they would vote for but I don't even think they're happy with the price tag you -- senator Collins and senator Snowe and senator Specter voted for it.
But the price tag on this bill in the senate 838.
Billion dollars -- that's nineteen billion dollars more than the house bill.
Those senators -- talk about wanting to get it below 800 billion dollars to me this is much too expensive it's not targeted at the things we ought to be doing which is fix housing first.
That's what got us into trouble in the first place.
And then trying to.
Get people back to work and not spending money on things that we shouldn't be spending money.
Well like for example -- 650 million dollars for digital to analog.
Programs -- -- -- says digital analog will have to clear up why it doesn't say analog to digital but I thought.
We had already spent money for that in the past we sold this huge amount of spectrum for billions of dollars to a lot of television companies in some of that money was supposed to be used for this now we find out suddenly we have to spend 650 million or more hard and earned dollars.
For something that I think qualifies for -- don't you.
David you have a right your viewers have it right this is the biggest spending bill in the history of the country to me it's being rushed to making all these decisions in just a week.
You know I think they ought to separate this out between things that can really stimulated an economy.
And then all these other issues that -- ought to be brought up in just part of the regular budget across okay if you were to do that senator odds are started -- but if you want to do that -- how much.
How much would it actually cost would that be would that cut be that the price of this thing in half and half.
I think you cut in half David I think you really could -- this big package passes.
I hope it works because we're firing all of our bullets were going to be out of ammunition after this one so I'm very concerned about the size of this package.
Using up all the ammunition it once and not having an opportunity to come back if we need to.
If they find out that all of these different ideas.
Don't really stimulate the economy and you know people are gonna think I'm obsessed with his digital conversion maybe I am but I think I just see this is as such a typical example -- so many -- -- government waste of the way lobbyists have interfered without making this bill because you know lobbyists were all over this particular program but how does it actually work.
Where does the money go will there be enough transparency.
As the president says he is he is dedicated to transparency is government so that we're sure that this just doesn't go to insiders friends of various people in government.
Those are very good question is David I'm concerned about that and it's not just the transparency its accountability its oversight.
Those things I think we're lacking in that bailout bill that we had before Christmas and I think they're lacking here now.
Now I should say in this 650 million dollar portion of the -- all the digital bill.
They're two million dollars a portion for an inspector general so I I assume that each particular.
Let's say tranches of spending -- that's at least 500 million or more will have an inspector general for each.
Particular part of my wrong -- that.
Well I don't think you're wrong on that David I think that we've seen a huge change in this country in two weeks we've seen a president who.
Came out and say that it made the statement is an inaugural that people have chosen hope over fear.
Yet when it comes to this bill people are in their efforts to scare people into voting for this and I think that's wrong I think that we ought to.
Debate these these different parts on the merits we shouldn't rush through this we should have the accountability in the oversight.
We really ought to be focusing on things that are going to stimulate the economy to me it's fix housing first.
It's give opportunities for small business there than the engine -- small businesses the engine to drive this economy and then eliminate programs just like the one you -- They're really don't -- anything to stimulate the economy where all of this bill now all laid 138 billion dollars -- will this now be added on.
To all the trillions that normally go into a budget -- is is is this going to be.
One shot deal.
-- -- -- spending a lot of money and I don't know the answer to that David I have great concerns though because there are things in this bill.
That really ought to be part of the regular.
Budgeting process how much you spent on transportation on education on energy and other infrastructure.
But I'd like to see some things that are really -- to stimulate the economy I'd like to see efforts for our highways or roads -- bridges but there's less money in this so called stimulus package for those.
Then there is for food stamps and for unemployment benefits so I am not convinced they have a right if you wanna jump start something.
Gonna make sure your jump starting a vehicle that's gonna take you where you -- -- go.
You know a jump -- the wrong thing and I have great concern that this is actually gonna do what we need to do.
To get the economy moving -- well and finally since the since you're undoubtedly gonna lose even though -- voting against it created this thing is gonna -- how to we pay for how do we monetize.
The debt that this is or the additional debt that this is gonna cost the country.
And and they your viewers know the answer -- this -- a couple of options one is raise taxes I'm against that.
One is print more money.
Which is gonna cause significant inflation and then the other is to just borrow it from foreign countries and have our kids and our grandkids pay for it.
None of these three options are good but those are the three options you have -- how to pay for such a massive spending bill by the way final thing since you are -- doctor is there anything in this massive bill that does.
Actually lead to helping our health care in the country.
I think there are some things but I don't think they should be part of the stimulus package you take a look at health.
Information technology some of those things those are worthy discussions and debates for us to have in the regular order of business here.
And that's where that those discussions should be not in a stimulus package it's supposed to help save and stimulate our economy.
Senator John Barrasso doctor John -- to good to see a senator thanks for being here.
Thank you David.
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