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Yeah the academic at the center of the so called climate gate scandal is -- current recipient of stimulus plan money.
That's according to a new report on professor Michael Mann of Penn state university now.
Thank investigating -- them.
For his alleged involvement in the attempt to destroy and manipulate climate data in order to advance the theory of man made global warming.
Now the national -- of -- public policy reasons such as London man received more than half million dollars in funds from the federal stimulus program.
Joining me now October rally he from the National Center for Public Policy Research development -- -- -- for having me first of all want is Michael man accused of doing.
He's in climate gate there were a lot of emails that were involved and even among the people in the inner circle were concerned that some of the day that he was he might have been manipulating the data.
To smooth out the temperature change over a thousand years okay that's what he's accused of doing what he is discussions about.
Hi -- use -- -- trick to hide the -- in the decrease in temperature so they've got a link.
Between the stimulus plan and this climate gate and it is a direct link in the form while professor Michael Mann.
My question is why it was a professor of my daughter's getting job creation stimulus plan money in the first but having do you have an ounce of of that.
That's the 782.
Billion -- all the court that is true but if that's the question because.
You don't look -- whole Obama's plan it seems like a lot of the stimulus money went to Medicaid went to entitlements.
Now it's also money possibly for a point now -- money that's going to a loyalists and the climate change debate.
In your prior program -- -- you you know also mentioned that the green jobs.
Obama is all in on green jobs that more relies on climate change happening if climate changes and real than we can go back to drilling for oil.
Digging for coal and the whole fossil fuel economy -- -- -- -- one big pollute one big balloon -- yeah okay that's a potentially this is a case of stimulus plan money did being deliberately used.
In the -- towards a scientific studies a series of studies which -- the administration's point that there is global warming that is manmade.
That is certainly a scenario that are most concerned about -- separate subject for 12.
A lot of corporations have laid out their investments in the future.
On the belief that cap and trade would happen.
Now what happens if cap and trade.
Doesn't happen as I think is highly likely.
-- -- -- A lot of these companies went all in with Obama you have General Electric a lot of utilities Duke Energy X line they're hoping to get billions and billions of dollars in free carbon credits and then therefore they -- they can.
Help those build -- new facilities.
And look at those credits they just wasted three years and they have no way of business plan.
Give me an example.
Of a company which set out -- stole thinking we would get cap and trade.
And really put big bucks into that whole idea -- gonna get cap and try to give an example of a company that may be that this out of sorts right now Duke Energy.
Their CEO Jen Rodgers has been lobbying for the last three years for a cap and trade and in the bill that came out of the house that was passed.
His company could reap billions of dollars in free carbon credits of which then he wants to use to build nuclear -- -- to -- cap and trade.
He doesn't have that free money and shareholders who just wasted three years of his time.
On this a lark who on you basically talk about political risk.
The -- that the gentleman who runs Duke Energy Jim Rogers correct he was really all it always -- our lives out his hole in with global warming my boy.
And he was and company.
And as a shareholder Amish have organization -- -- outrage what's he doing over there.
He should be -- in North Carolina trying to figure out what's he gonna do with his energy plan.
Without cap and trade because that's not gonna happen full disclosure you from the National Center for Public Policy -- -- -- okay.
All you oil company funded all you industry found 94% of all money comes from individuals individuals.
Do you take the position that global warming man made global warming is not a threat it's not real is that your position that's my position I'm joined by you know.
Thousands and thousands of other scientists look at and and millions and millions of Americans.
And rabbit transparency is key in science with these individuals -- -- in climate gate they were talking about manipulating hiding in destroying data.
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