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-- switching gears a little -- you're also the founder of the good life project.
Can you tell me a little bit about it data -- personal quest really you know I became curious what does it mean to -- of life are there some sense of fairly universal principles that we can you discover and share.
So I start looking around the world and trying to find people who who can mean we're teachers people are going -- -- great artist it was traders on the north musicians.
-- captains of industry and find out.
Who want to look like him living good lives not just chasing the money which matters really really living their lives and finding out what -- learn from these people and interviewing them and insurance and it is.
-- -- you've broken down the key elements into a couple of key components.
The first is have a strategy but be open to serendipity can you give me a little more detail yes so one of the things that we find -- which is really kind of -- as people get very windy air that what they're trying to accomplish and achieve.
But we find is -- the best things in life very often than not plan -- the things we have to be open to the possibility that something you can enter.
Something magical might happen that you never even thought.
When you close that off.
We tend to close off a lot of the amazing things in life when you come open in fact that you may be wrong something better may be out there and then all of a sudden things you never thought could happen planet.
OK so it's it I -- is this just positive thinking.
It's not it's actually deliver practice because most of it becomes so focused and so narrow that we really have to retrain ourselves to not be that way.
Look at and certain others but don't live through that and that's it yeah.
If people get caught up with that lie until we find a lot of happiness people -- people to work I feel like I'm living that life.
Or in some way deeply serving other people which is and there's great researcher on the salsa if you look at the -- that series of careers were people happy as.
At the top are always strong service oriented careers people who are and -- the service and fire service and police -- fee based service.
But the risk there.
Is that we.
Becomes so service oriented that we actually start to give up ourselves and we -- to live through those other people we lose our sense of self.
She's the consulates are pulling that -- I wanna serve and -- again.
But I also need to certainly keep track of who like all the way.
And you -- vulnerability.
Is it but -- He added is in Mississippi counter intuitive writes a friend of -- Renee brown really -- -- and for for a lot of people.
We think that vulnerability is weakness.
Especially when men really tenth at ten to wrap around as we don't want to show our vulnerability like.
If we don't know everything out in the world.
What we find his book the life and in business that would actually step up and say you know I don't know the answers.
He not only give yourself permission to learn.
-- you give everyone around you permission to also open up and say we don't either.
Let's come together and see if we -- -- -- together and that creates a really deep connection between people.
Which is really -- a lot of living well is about.
-- on the fact that if you're trying to run -- build something that you actually get people being honest can get.
Answers and solutions in creations on a different level.
Should a bit at the same time -- -- -- this CEO you need to be the one in command so there's a little bit of balance for now there's definitely balance but I have.
The pleasure of in treating someone named -- my cat who about a year ago.
-- -- command nuclear attack sub in the navy and he literally turned around the worst performing flee to the number one performing -- By owning his vulnerability and you would never imagine in a scenario like that -- life and death that -- CEO of nuclear attacks out.
Would win the -- over by saying I don't know where.
Failure it is not always failure thing.
That's good to know well I but I -- I -- failures pretty much failure black you know to me it's really only that it's only negative.
If you don't take a look at and see why did I forget what happened here so failure on examined is failure.
But failure where you actually learn from and you learn -- -- it's almost like failing Howard.
Is an experienced to me.
I'm never failing I never growing on -- learning and that's on a personal level and also is -- -- -- when I'm trying to build something.
If I'm never hitting a wall and never failing that means whatever I'm doing is just static -- coincide with Max and an outline here.
So what you say is when if -- which you know everyone does from time to time.
Really learn examine the failure and try to learn from Minnesota doesn't happen again that is step one very -- just how we right the ship.
I haven't had to get back on track.
-- always go back and you postmortem debrief and they gotta -- what happened here what are things that I can extract from this and then apply in this thing.
Again I like that's a good light isn't a place at which you -- it's a lens through which you seen and create your world.
There is no there there -- this is he doing -- and that is very deep.
-- and we're getting very easy and then forgot about.
And that this is so -- because so many people say -- just a little bit more a little bit more money like a little more success you know when it finally find that person -- get that house or whatever it may be.
What you find as you get New -- -- you can be -- hosting a little bit more.
And what you know you start to realize is that it's more the choice you know -- put on the -- this is what I have I still aspire to do big things in the world.
But let me be grateful for what I have right here now it's more wins that we choose to Wear any moment in time.
And you also say gratitude is a big component to being successful huge I mean what we really there's so many opportunities that the davis' office didn't go right -- -- I hate what happened it's not right.
But when cancer within the end of the day step back and say OK what went well today.
When my grateful for what we -- a research shows that that actually -- -- really profound difference in our game -- happen.
Ritualized the Monday in and to make room for the brilliant what does that mean I mean we all have you know certain things that are just mundane about the day to day life.
Dad had no idea how do you ritualized back.
So this is this really kind of came to -- I was working on my last book and hours -- talk with all these high level creators across different -- and we start to realize -- a pattern that none of them even saw.
Which is the dating game decisions that they were making it would ritualized they didn't have to make any decisions about what it what they wore what they listen to when they exercise stuff like that.
And that freed up all the sort of content can created and with two really good -- create extraordinary things in those areas of the life where it really matter.
That's very interesting you know thinking about a lot of the staff and you you know make room for thinking about that really.
Important staff yeah I mean absolutely have -- How lying what you do with who you are and you'll become what you need to be another kind of zen.
-- but you say it's true yeah.
Absolutely and a lot of people ask me -- what does it take to succeed in business are people letting things like this and what I found so many people will start something else in the world -- building and the builds -- the -- the world actually consider successful but inside they actually hate showing up at the thing that they build every day.
Because what they built was built based on what other people told them -- -- build.
Not what they actually knew intuitively.
They really need to -- to the real deeper lesson there just step one is -- yourself.
A lot of people just want to figure out what's gonna work.
We've been irrational idea what's gonna work for me as well somebody else how do you do that that's the big question look at me it's a process of self discovery you know looking at your values would pull your strings looking at the preferences if you want to bring -- contribute to the world.
It's -- it's a process that most people it's it's education -- -- -- work to people just -- past that figure doesn't really matter but it's sort of the source of why things work ago.
Jonathan thank you so much for all the good advice thanks for being here and we really appreciate my pleasure thanks -- --
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