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Judgment or good.
For more on what appears to be a tactical victory by the military in Egypt and the urban -- war on Egypt's secular revolution joining us.
Pulitzer Prize winning -- Fox News contributor Judith Miller.
Fox News Middle East and terrorism analyst doctor Walid Ferris good to have you both here.
Let me ask first -- we witness what is happening Judy in in Cairo.
He is this a government that is having its way is it firmly establishing itself.
Or is it he is it on the edge of outright rebellion.
Well I think the government which -- the support of the majority of the Egyptian people was actually pushed.
By the Egyptian people into this very.
Dramatic and risky policy Egyptian people -- the Muslim Brotherhood.
-- the Egyptian people wanted the Muslim Brotherhood to get out of the streets they wanted to end.
He's encampments that are basically closing off much of Cairo to their own people.
They had had it with Morsi in the Muslim Brotherhood they wanted to Egypt -- they want to be Egyptian military to take charge.
And restore Egypt to the egyptians that's what's happened today and that's why the administration.
Is having such a difficult time.
Finding a voice that.
Well on one hand support the military and on the other hand.
Still pretend to support democracy.
Honestly I I see it more -- just the difficult.
Wally and I see this administration frankly so conflicted in -- statements its initiatives sending Graham and McCain -- I wrote.
To support the inclusion of the Muslim Brotherhood.
-- by all accounts.
The secular military certainly wanted out but so did the other elements of that.
What is your analysis.
That really made it very very clear.
-- -- -- many decision makers both in the executive and legislative branches and and the city.
Who think it's chaos it is not chaos it is part of the war on terror what happened today as you just said in the introduction.
Is a win is a tactical victory in the war against extreme -- the Muslim Brotherhood are the mother company the mother machine.
That has been feeding all the other jihadist ideologically politically and even war.
So the army has that -- Listen to -- -- people have said they mandated the army.
33 million on June the thirtieth marched on the streets of Cairo and I get another thirty to forty million -- again and asked the army -- get rid of the armed.
-- enclaves in congress is not against democracy or against demonstration they could -- it was just as long as they want but it's against a militia so it's controlling the heart of of a.
-- so let me ask -- -- and Andrea begin with you.
Why is this administration.
Sending off McCain and Graham.
-- on a mission which they call for the Muslim Brotherhood.
To be part of any results and government.
Well why is this administration supporting the Muslim Brotherhood.
When they are a clear and present danger to stability not only in Egypt.
About the region.
Lou I don't think they are supporting the Muslim Brotherhood I think what they want to avoid.
Is the Muslim Brotherhood.
And starting to wage the kind of terrorism we -- Egypt.
That the G hot -- -- have waged throughout the Middle East.
The only way to do that is to get the military to include them in some way shape performance -- use Sen McCain and -- send gram to deliver that message.
That message it is that is -- the message I frankly heard of them deliver.
They insisting upon Egyptian brotherhood participation.
Speaking directly to the leaders of the secular military.
Including general -- -- This is.
Preposterous on its face to me.
That they're -- idea about avoiding a a guerrilla war with a Muslim Brotherhood.
Is to put them in a very significant role with in a coalition governing coalition.
Well I think as long as the military is calling the shots you can afford to have some Muslim Brotherhood participation.
With out risking.
Or I should take military secular control of the country where my talking about an organization.
That has just lost its primacy in that they -- in the form of Mohamed Morsi being.
Thrown from office by the military to receive substantial to me -- -- your thoughts.
Look many advisors many academics and Washington have been advising the administration and outside the administration exactly that the Muslim Brotherhood are not leave people just bring them -- government and once -- -- -- government that gonna be very nice.
That is not the case the Muslim Brotherhood when they can get the government did do as much as they can't -- That -- -- agenda when they grabbed the entire government -- -- has gone what did he do he went social Democrats.
-- his started to create maybe the foundation for thought events take an agent and that's -- -- was sixteen million so again that is sixty million Egyptian who rose against them.
What the Muslim Brotherhood needs to do to come back one day to government -- the parliament.
Is the reform is to do what Gorbachev tried to do in the Communist body and he failed so good not for the.
And I cannot let this -- -- out there and Mohamed ElBaradei again.
Stepping forward stepping back stepping out.
What in the world is this what is his role what is his vision and his own role.
In Egypt's -- Politics and it's -- -- I think the man who won the Nobel Peace Prize can hardly sit back and watch you know.
Hundreds have -- his people be slaughtered on the other hand.
When people -- promoting -- anything.
As people are these are Muslim brother no computer egyptians.
Anyone can be killed in Egypt he wasn't -- by the way.
Of letting this be done and it kind of kinder gentler way which is starving them out there.
Rather than going and a moral compass I don't have her as a problem that many of us -- -- -- -- back today was a UN person who would spend more time.
In Geneva and in the United States and he had in Egypt.
He doesn't know his own country and I think we've seen the results of today and men serve was not quick to say I don't know Mohamed please.
State -- it was remotely.
No no I think about that is important to us because we've been seeing him on.
Many networks and he's a guy who's known and internationally -- 500 bad guys with Ph.D.s went.
Very Smart agenda as if you look at Egyptian TV you know they dismiss the whole issue we don't have spot -- moving forward for democracy against jihadist but -- is afraid.
He was three times the word I fear so he's afraid to let him step down and come back when the process would be clarified.
Want to thank you very much Judy thank you Christian.
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