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This libertarian fears that we have not heard that half of what the government is doing supposedly perfect because we've -- out Kato privacy expert Julian Sanchez still went.
How big is this getting because I'm almost afraid -- -- read the latest developments because.
They just get more and more and more.
-- it seems like they've they've done their best to compartmentalize.
What they're doing so they can admit gradually well yes this program.
Does exist but we don't do.
These other things under that program it's easy this.
In response to questions from legislators about location tracking this I no this call -- the call records program we're not doing any location tracking.
Under that program as we've seen -- again and again.
-- they split these things -- -- they can deny one thing.
That there in fact doing under the shell over you know I never -- -- that -- you were far more stupid -- and they -- worded delay in the indeed and parts legal terms that make you think like what that depends what you mean the wording of the word is is.
And I I do distinctly remember when the phone log thing first candlelight.
That that they were where they're saying this was part of -- -- did not -- -- go beyond but they were talking specifically about beyond.
Taking those phone records and wiretapping folks another word leaving open clearly the possibility because hate you journalist in -- that.
That this extended to emails that this extended to chat rooms and all that so what should we be asking these guys -- what kind of clarification.
Two to allow them not to legally wiggle out of of this and -- yes.
We have some of them are questions that legislators that have been asking.
The new FBI had -- -- -- I would refuse to answer which is.
-- -- For example specifically with regard to location tracking beyond this particular -- meta data program.
Are there other programs that you might be using or where -- previously programs -- also tracking where everyone is through their cell phone.
Point four hours a day seven days a week and storing that.
They now say under this program currently we're not but we don't know in terms of this Internet -- -- had to -- Internet meta data is incredibly potentially sensitive.
And that impression you -- from the report in the guardian.
Is that we shouldn't be too reassured when they still were not targeting Americans.
Because it looks like a lot of -- this program involves is not really targeted.
In any individual sense at all it's about using what they call soft selectors right -- you don't have an email address her phone number.
You're looking for suspicious you're not looking for.
-- Osama bin Laden or a guy talking to -- sounded -- and they're kind of trolling the Internet for suspicious behavior.
By which they mean someone he's using encryption software will but it didn't run as visually they got to worry I.
I think most of you know -- -- that they're not out to get outside not in that paranoid -- but I will say this I think there can be a fuel.
Wackos there -- will say.
I'll let Israel commit those email address and and apparently Snowden.
That's sad and and in this started sorry that sometimes are little more than some of the email address that sorely needed to go -- you elaborate and detailed which on.
-- -- go -- sites I've been non people with whom I've been chatting at data being monitored live a little -- then.
Then the credentials he had to go -- -- room and get that info within.
-- -- -- But we know already that that shortly after that -- amendments act of 2008 pack.
Asked some program like this.
Because it's so powerful accidentally were resulted in massive over collection.
-- hardly domestic US that including Bill Clinton's emails.
-- that was by accident imagine what someone.
You know who had a a twisted idea of watts.
National security involves union might decide that.
People who are opposed to the presidency I would have done it I would have stuck around to -- Bill Clinton's mind I -- about it but but but I'm all right -- good stuff as always thank you very much.
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