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2000 years ago won super -- -- dominated the work.
It became famous for its military.
And for having rule of law and a stable currency people could roll aren't they build beautiful -- -- -- -- They created arts and literature broke flourished for more than 200 years in relative peace and prosperity.
But then -- chrome.
More well political leaders -- power that Howard heard many of the tyrants who indulged in debauchery and corruption.
They raise taxes to pay for war and increased regulation.
When the masses flame they tried to please them with him -- Sounds familiar -- is this what's happening to America.
-- a thousand about that -- gather here to debate that went and that's our show tonight.
Tonight I'm in Las Vegas, Nevada for a special edition of our show.
I'd like to say that -- All these people came here just for that but they really came for freedom -- -- world's biggest gathering of free mind.
It's it's -- topic -- week becoming wrong.
Now free my.
That's a phrase we libertarians like to use to describe ourselves.
This is basically a big conference of libertarians and I think.
Our minds are usually free right.
We had a free our minds to get these concepts but a lot of people think we're crazy.
But on to tonight's topic -- is the United States about to fall as wrong it gives depiction of barbarians sacking the city.
Is this our future.
First we hear from a conservative.
Historian and a -- the conservative Steve Forbes of Forbes media.
You have some libertarian leanings but.
Conservative I would call you the historian Carl rich Rashard is an expert on the wrong the libertarian.
-- QB if freedom works a group that fights against big government so -- you first are we becoming role.
I think we are I think the parallels are quite.
Ominous that the steps the expansionist foreign policies.
The arrogance of executive power taking over country.
But I do think we have a chance to stop.
Car I think there are similarities not -- with the fall of the empire which is what most people talk about them probably fall of Rome also the fall of the republic which was 500 years earlier.
And there exceed.
Romans engaging in unconstitutional lacks political leaders and so on and I see some of that unconstitutional acts like stuffing ballot boxes corruption what what -- that did happen this sort of under the table corruption.
And that's bad obviously but it doesn't bother me as much as the over.
Things for instance marriages.
Was elected council six years -- a broad even though.
Under the Roman constitution.
It is term limited to one year.
And people just -- voting farm -- -- was unconstitutional.
And that kind of stuff.
And now we have congress passing laws they haven't read.
Right we have presidents of both parties.
Legislating by executive barter.
Saying I'm not -- enforce certain laws because I don't like them we have here Clarence.
Legislating through regulations.
We have Supreme Court -- Is constitutional for the government to take your property and sell it to someone else because he can give us more tax revenue.
There are a lot of -- and state.
Yes you can always find parallels but the fact that we're meeting.
I think shows that the antidote is coming about.
We the people have not gone the -- been totally corrupted the way the Romans where we're not passive.
We saw with the tea parties and despite IRS oppression the Tea Party movement is coming back again in season when he fourteen.
And they may try to -- to the lions but we're gonna home alliance because we believe in free enterprise.
I wish I weren't as optimistic as you know but I fear we.
Will become -- let me just Paul the audience.
Are you as optimistic as to how many do you think -- and we're going down the tubes where in.
Most how many do you think.
We're gonna turn -- out.
They can't both be true.
But again you're not a normal audience because here.
-- birds according to Senator John McCain that's what he called some libertarian minded politicians but.
Walking around here at this conference and seeing not the Tea Party boots and people selling investments in gold and game show quizzes that test your knowledge -- dead Austrian economist.
You have to.
Understand why we get our reputation as eccentric.
And -- pitch and and different it is this.
Unfair -- is this fair.
-- -- art isn't this group mostly men mostly badly dressed man.
-- -- I'm going to libertarian events I this is what I notice -- people who care about numbers.
Less about how they look I think Steve Forbes is a perfect example of of that.
Felt the warm patient he is this unfair.
You're sounding like my opponent.
So I didn't expect that from you but.
Let let let let's face it people who make things happen you could describe our forefathers are revolutionaries and the same way.
At the -- minorities to see something's wrong go out persuade become agitators and that changed the world and we've done it once we're gonna do it again.
We are going to be.
-- of all people should know don't look at the superficial look at the substance we've got the substance that's why we're gonna ultimately win.
-- The midst of that makes America possible.
Matt what about my my libertarian slur I look at your side -- and I think people -- -- say yeah.
It's not a normal guy.
Definitely guilty as charged.
But our -- you go to thousand of these meetings of the people different -- We're different because we have written books and we do.
Is not a -- in defense of liberty.
And any psychologically.
I -- socially awkward -- -- overcome it because I have to I have a TV show and asked my friends and -- ask Imus and he'll tell a slightly awkward.
What is it about many about people who like to analyze it's -- Bill Clinton the opposite he felt your pain.
And then spent more money we.
On a personality type.
Economists would argue that everything we do we fight for freedom when we show but rallies when we care about the future of our country economists would say that's irrational.
But we happen -- think it's the best thing to do because we care not only about our country.
But our future and our kids future that's not normal in this country and that's what we have to fix.
But it's part of our culture -- -- -- they're always out liars always trying to see things that others aren't Singh and Steve Jobs famously said.
You do marketing surveys he said no because people don't know what they want to we show them.
Attempted to want to you know put out there and see if they like it.
And so work.
Often times we fail but that's we try to learn from that that for freedom's about take a chance.
They'll learn what to do -- better next time.
If we accept that conventional wisdom -- -- still be living in case.
Well we're gonna try to show tonight Karl do you have more.
Historical perspective we should.
Think about comparing America that are wrote in of the debt the high spending I'm pregnant the -- empire that.
-- and indeed they had high debt crisis devaluation of currency there's another one.
You know they'll cart them that I empire of so called silver -- morning was only 2% still that's how they devalued it.
And it -- it got to the point that the Roman government would not accept its own currency in taxes you had to give.
We're not there yet.
Thank you Carl.
-- kidneys or us coming -- gladiators.
Did valued currency.
A growing welfare state other ways America.
Is just too much like room.
-- come back -- freed up fast.
Now the welfare state.
America didn't invent the welfare state Europe had won an even Roman -- won't.
I didn't know that -- -- came to this conference.
And two people who've educated media -- Charles Murray author of losing ground -- book that woke America up to that destructiveness of welfare.
And Larry read to -- the foundation for economic education.
So what Larry I learned from you the welfare state began about halfway through the Roman empire.
That's right it took the form first of payments to recipients in the form of a -- -- -- the government gave it away at half price.
But the problem was that they couldn't stop there -- later there was a mandate Claudius who ran for the office of tribunal on the platform of free week for the masses and he won.
And it was downhill from there.
They gradually raise taxes and gave stuff away.
It's ready -- increase including a free salt free pork free all of -- other staples of the Roman -- So -- -- would show up.
Personally just pick up their staff who have been long lines.
In fact they had a means test at one time and -- -- doing so than anybody.
Good does show -- and and get this free stuff.
And they decided that everybody had to be educated by the state.
Well not everybody but they started public schools -- well let the that was -- Much later -- -- grew to greatness.
With largely home schooling.
And the first -- here.
Didn't appear until the around 250 BC and they -- not funded by the government until very late.
And the Greeks actually mocked rolled for being backwards about that's right well of course they didn't last -- longer is -- -- So Charles you have educated us about.
Welfare about these handouts you see parallels.
With -- that.
I mean it.
If you take a look at Roman society as a starter decayed.
It looks a whole lot like we do now and then it's not just because of the welfare state and the people on the bottom.
It's also because the people on the top who are increasingly living isolated lives from the rest of the I -- the parallels between room.
And the United States right now to be very scary.
Clearly the welfare state -- much of life has horrible unintended consequences but.
Do we just get rid of it let me ask you libertarians.
You're pretty hard -- -- so.
Should America get rid of all handouts.
But what would happen.
They say -- Charles Murray you wrote losing ground what's -- -- Well in fact I think if we got rid of the entire welfare state.
That the ability of this very wealthy society to deal with the problems.
Would work all right but I also would say here's here's I've got to go went beyond you're not go to -- I'm about to go -- -- I don't think it is -- within the realm of possibility.
For days of industrialized advanced society with as much wealth.
As we have.
To ever do that politically.
And I think that libertarians are going to have to strike a grand compromise with the left.
In effect saying all right we will give you.
A big spending.
If you'll give us freedom from government.
And so I'd say look I'm with Milton Friedman.
A state used a guarantee basic income.
Where everybody over Tony one -- positive monthly into electronically into a known bank account that's a very key thing.
And let people take their lives back into their own hands.
They will have the -- with all that they can deal with the material necessities of life.
If they do not do -- they're gonna have to talk to friends neighbors.
Churches the community.
They're gonna have to make their case.
I think that's a better way to go.
You wrote a book about this called in our hands you know.
-- I'm gonna push back.
First I would say he -- even his better book is in pursuit -- a about happiness and good government upon which really brought my mind around.
You're telling me -- -- given the money and the -- is gonna spend it all in two months and then the social worker is gonna go on TV on instilling social work that children.
We're gonna be not someone that -- times reporter you know go on -- say.
You got to let this woman's children starve it's not their fault and the way have a whole new program -- -- Here's what you're gonna have -- You're going to have somebody who smokes -- up in the first two weeks all right he's got another two weeks before there's going to be a new deposit in his monthly countenance three I don't have any money.
All right he doesn't have the option of going to a social worker can only -- to go to.
He has to go to the people he lives around.
And say it I really need help and they -- in a position saying okay we -- -- -- but it's time for you to get your act together we will introduce.
The kinds of human connections.
That are the only way to change human behavior and some who don't find those connections will die in the street -- -- -- -- -- you're not alienate the United States has never let people -- in the street.
What we will now have that we don't have now.
Now we have bureaucrats who.
Cannot make the distinction between somebody who needs a kick in the pants of some of you need to pat the back.
We will put these kinds of human need to back in the venue.
Of human relationships.
Whereby you can apply -- the feedback loops of incentives.
And -- probation and this day in and stigma and all the rest which could make these problems.
This audience is different from -- and that they understand that before the welfare state there weren't these mutual aid societies everywhere.
Which helped people Larry tell us about -- absolutely knows nothing about being a politician makes you more compassionate -- -- and the people who sent you there.
And so I have every confidence that passionate with -- other people's money yeah absolutely so I start from the premise that it's not the business of the government.
To redistribute our stuff it's it's the business.
In Rome when they gave out stopped it often went to the wealthier people thought well without a means test.
Which was the case and most of Roman history anybody could line up to get these goodies.
Which contributed to the ultimate bankruptcy of food over what state.
One telling -- about the poverty rate is that -- advocates.
Of the war on poverty welfare and say.
The poverty line dropped sharply for five years after the war and poverty to diet that -- But then you look at what happened before the war and poverty began and the line was just a sharp people we're lifting themselves out of poverty.
Government it kept.
Think it's improving in its top front of the book the great untold story of the poverty rate is that there was a miracle would happen from the end of World War II.
To the early 1960s it was cut from about.
40% of adults were beneath the poverty line as we not find it.
About 20% the war on poverty start the line continues to go down for a couple years.
And it flattens out where it's -- -- because we taught people to be dependent.
The -- quoted as we change the rules of the game.
That made it profitable for low income people especially young low income people.
To do things that looked like gee this makes sense in the short term and -- disastrous in the long term.
I think the primary beneficiaries of the welfare state of the politicians not the people that the welfare is intended for -- -- -- Somebody once said that the welfare state is so named because the politicians get well the rest of us pay the -- and I think that's.
Exactly what's happened.
Thank you Larry Reid and Charles very coming up.
Did you know that one Roman emperor held -- -- and threatened to execute senators' wives who did not attend.
That creepy list of rope when we return.
Not -- were -- Las Vegas for freedom fest that most people here are libertarians we wanna shrink government.
We don't like Texas.
But hey we need national defense and local police some.
Pollution control rules so there's some things most of us say.
Government must do.
How -- they gonna get the money Texas got to have some right yes and it.
The tough crowd here.
I see why and our taxes always tend to go op.
And that was part of Rome's problem to say to people who try to spread the word about the damage taxes do.
Grover Norquist is head of Americans for Tax Reform he's somehow persuaded many politicians to pledge to never raise texts.
Economist at sea floor.
-- these issues.
For the Wall -- -- Grover rolled -- -- tax -- will not always at first for about 400 years they had no.
-- -- direct internal taxes because they looted their neighbors.
That maybe we're not advocate.
We have talked to Canadians but that may not work out.
But then that even that wasn't enough.
And so they started having.
Dramatically higher taxes the amount of money they spent on the -- to occupy those other guys -- or perhaps they were able to.
Extract taxes -- with tariffs.
A gust of Caesar Augustus -- first death tax Constantin broadest first income tax.
All the stuff that were now living where they were thinking up that property taxes.
So rough that people were actually abandoning their property.
-- -- -- Leave me alone and then had to pass laws to not let you leave your property.
It just stay -- -- farm it so they could blue chip.
Things got towards the end it got very very rough and it's part of why things didn't work.
-- one penalty for not paying your taxes are being sold into slavery.
Yeah people in modern day -- -- last night I think everything.
When they would -- they -- demand.
Payment in gold and silver the only way to get it was to sell in some cases children under slavery went south -- -- labor.
To get currency was it was that bad.
I read was the highest income tax.
-- what happened I mean -- exactly right and what happened -- one of the reasons -- now.
Was they -- collecting more more money from the tributaries the outlying areas and all went into Rome and you had a massive revolt revolt among the people.
All over the the country who weren't in Rome and -- by the way that's happening in America today I think people are sick and tired of seeing their tax dollars.
Except to Washington.
And not a -- coming back to the states from whence it -- and that's one of the respectively.
-- -- -- -- -- -- the stage for in the federal government the federal government did not create the studies the reaction they -- right here.
Reaction to the tax farmers that they had that would go out collect the taxes.
They call them tax farmers tax farmers tax collectors it would show about it and one revolt in Asia minor they killed about 80000 of them in but they -- there.
-- Because it would that we are advocating killing tax collectors of this show.
It is a four year war that -- -- to put down that revolt that it was clearly a that that serious taxable for John to your point when you asked me about the 1% tax I don't know what those tax rates were wrong.
But when we created our federal income tax in the United States back in that it was around 1913.
-- -- -- That top income tax rate when net income tax start it was just 7%.
Twenty within ten years the top income tax rate -- -- from 7% to 70%.
You know and then it's it's remained high ever -- that's why I've always believe Steve Forbes had a right we got to go back to an 18% flat tax get rid of all the deductions all the loopholes.
Make it as simple.
-- Lot of money.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- By the way the people who are most opposed to the flat tax the people -- most oppose the -- that our people in Washington DC because you take the power away from Washington.
But when we went into revolts haven't and 747 -- -- that Americans in the college for paying 2%.
Our pressures the brits in London were paying 20%.
It's expensive running an empire.
We need to go back towards 2% like 2% better than making.
What percent would be added to be clear we're at 40% about -- includes eight local yet.
But you have to get treatment -- it towards 2% we function fairly well beyond that.
And the reason the British for tax themselves -- 20%.
Was that they were running them.
Thank you Grover and Steve coming up when governments can't raise taxes any more they find other ways to police people lights devaluing the currency.
Rove did that -- America's putting it.
But what does that do what country that worked out so well for -- that's next.
It's -- world.
People like meet people who care first about liberty.
Now most of this audience hates taxes.
Actually even many politicians.
Don't like them because taxing people with six people -- -- for ever politicians have found sneaky ways to fund their spending.
Roman emperors but less and less -- in points they issue.
That cause inflation a bushel of wheat that cost eight Roman dollars by the next century cost a 120000.
-- -- -- Ben -- economist at Texas Tech and Jeffrey Tucker of laissez Faire books study currency debasement they say.
We better be careful the American dollar is already going down to what -- -- I've heard I feared that any yet inflation's low.
-- -- I think you kidding me.
-- look over time right at there's grandmothers rolling over in their graves right in fact his Kremlin ruling over -- 48 seats right now probably.
Any young person has heard someone -- Remember when that cost a nickel all things and all the sudden get more expensive in terms of the labor we have to use from what's happened is -- currencies lost its value.
It takes -- -- -- three dollars to buy today what one dollar could back in 1913.
When the arteries that are -- to go all the way back in 1913.
That Paul Krugman will tell you -- inflation is what 2% a year historically.
That's pretty good.
That this isn't a big mystery though right the -- -- created a lot of money with Q -- what ever now that we're up to but the banks are holding most of it it's not.
Generic going into the price level because they're holding -- -- extra reserves because the Fed started paying.
And interest on directory users if that actually gets went out Ben Woolsey higher price inflation that's a form of robbery actually of savers.
And how do you explain that fifty -- Get a return on your money anymore from society -- you can't sustain prosperity without the saving and investment.
And that's decisive with his policies that discourage it let's go back to the -- parallel free trade -- they prosper.
Then they started -- they did what politicians don't.
What their empire kept expanding and they were bringing in more people that they could basically and who can bring money back to Rome.
And eventually around 100 AD they hit the the maximum extent of their empire and was -- -- fuel from.
And then they started resorting to other ways to raise money which was debasing -- currency.
And continuing to take the solar out of their points raising tax rates and over time this was the -- -- Rome was a big government destroyed my.
It wasn't the barbarians the barbarians came as the government was collapsing under its own weight.
The current hero issued points there were 95% so.
Then the next temper this is one of those -- is this was 85% still.
It all the way down to -- you've got a good walk.
85% so over it ended up becoming 15000.
Of the silver content of the original by about 300 or so AD.
This -- what governments do when they can't tax people let's talk to debase the currency and this is essentially what's gone on this country for the last two leaders.
About a hundred years ago.
With the creation of Federal Reserve -- basically you know nationalize that the dollar.
Put it -- sort of socialist control under under kind of -- arrangement.
And we've seen its quality diminish over the over a hundred years which is actually faster that really happen in Rome and think about it.
You know it's hard to get -- -- have worked up about this is they look around and they say yeah larger America is still a pretty well.
You know there's a great deal of distortion in the system.
People thought the real estate markets are doing pretty well in 2007.
You know -- surprises around around the corner and especially with the with the with the government that refuses to fund itself honestly this is this -- -- You know that that at the very fact of the existence of the Fed makes the government too big.
Detail the politicians don't have to worry about spending restraint so long as the -- there with its unlimited credit card with paper.
Everything there's no default risk on on US treasuries.
You know we have just this.
Unlimited spending there will be no spending restraints along the Fed is there -- to bail anyone and everyone.
Out all the time when inflation columns what will the government do the Romans.
Issued wage and price controls.
But the unit where the government is a -- done this remember when that -- was finally divorce from gold in 1971.
What came right -- -- a decade of high inflation in the 1970s and universal wage and price controls under Nixon not Nixon was kind of a -- compared to the Roman emperors.
-- do you appreciate when he did it in 300 -- he made a punishable by death.
And even still you got all the same bad consequences.
Shortages decreases in quality products not coming to market.
Distortion structure economy.
And distortions they wouldn't let you change jobs either to get around the controls Constantine said it.
Anyone who violates requirements that they remain in their current occupation.
May be bound with chains and reduced to a circle condition.
-- -- -- depletion when he impose wage and price controls he blamed greed some people are all was eager to turn a profit.
Even on blessings from the -- Our shared humanity urges us to settle -- -- cheated when people use agreed to explain something.
-- greed is constant it's always there that can't explain.
Price spike or price -- -- like the greedy oil companies are driving up prices forever says -- -- -- oil companies cut less -- you the price came out.
Doesn't work right -- green doesn't explain.
One solution some people say the government.
Playing with the currency is the gold standard -- -- -- he had one for awhile didn't.
Really work a gold set up your goals however be a great thing the problem with the goals and to -- before you answer yes this is for this libertarian audience yeah.
How many of you own goal either actual bolder investment.
-- about everybody.
I I imagine you watching out there it's not so high so that -- different why because you don't trust those Federal Reserve don't.
Take -- away -- golden golden -- I really great goals and I wouldn't have the government involved app pool now gold has just fallen from sixteen under to thirteen -- B -- people lost a lot of money but maybe this is bad advice.
Well gold investment in the gold standard two separate things here as far as the speculation you know what went through what should buy into and discussed -- goes -- does that mean you're also recommending builds as an investment.
I don't know it's like they would go together that you would believe in gold isn't it it.
Entirely depends on what people's expectations of the future are.
That should be embodied in the price of gold how so it depends basically do we think everybody else is too pessimistic or too optimistic and that tells us whether it's a good investment.
Not whether it's a good standard for a month.
What about big points this and I'm a big fan I think I think the kinds one of the great innovations that Republican about four years ago.
It was one of a long succession of attempted digital countries the criticism this points for those of you who don't know is it heard it for what currency.
Is limited and ought to protect you against the valuing Dow that's a good medicine residents bought the currency and a payments with.
Very innovative by comparison to the dollar in a big Clinton makes the dollar look like a dinosaur like there's been no improvement and our money and and a very long.
That kind of -- as the currency for the digital age it's more like physical property.
The best thing -- the government's not involved that have all it was created by the market itself it's a beautiful thing.
The most implausible.
Sort of currency.
You know if you have lasted about ten years ago will the market create a new digital currency that allows me to exchange with anybody in the world and Central America.
And and Africa all the world's court even if you don't have a credit card can still exchange funny will that happen.
Now that won't happen.
And it's brilliant.
On that note thank you Jeffrey -- and then Powell -- Roman emperors -- big bucks on David.
It's like the coliseum used for things like fights between gladiators sometimes fighting animals.
There are -- American parallels to that joke.
-- up fast on the question are we Rome being on the route to collapse.
The ancient Rome's rulers trying to keep the people happy despite debased currency and corruption offered distractions.
And -- It's.
One Roman poet called it bread and circuses and sometimes it was an actual -- or.
Chariot races or gladiator sometimes fighting to the debt.
Now America doesn't allow that yet.
But sports economist JC bread -- his government still does fund circuses that they they take the form of sports stadiums what do you what do you make.
Well it's a very common.
Being in a community where politicians says boy we really need something to pull our team together to keep us happy and a sports city and -- just so we need because it's going to increase economic development.
He's -- a rally around it are all going to be richer they say they'll pay for themselves they don't.
In Atlanta the -- would receive 200000 dollars freer and parking revenue.
They got thirty right and that's for the Gwinnett brave statement Gwinnett County in time after time -- -- gonna get parking revenues didn't happen we're gonna get naming -- revenue.
Didn't happen -- they got much less and they said it'll pay for itself from day one.
Right absolutely unique in its -- never do end and the thing I think that's so frustrating for me to see this is that.
He's been studied so much politicians and I I don't want this fight he.
Economists like you have explained did you say -- the football's team has eight home games a year -- -- second -- the economic stimulus go back to the bread and circuses come.
Mean that is not a positive comment about human species had that -- that -- -- being placated.
Oh just give them bread and circuses and -- citizens of bro we're giving up some of their freedoms because politicians gave -- the things they wanted.
I think citizens today that like sports sports are popular and so.
He's -- well wanna let -- go ahead and support the stadium I'm not gonna punish a politician for supporting.
So let's go back to the Rome parallel because our stadiums -- pale compared to what they did.
The gladiator this was entertainment to keep the people pacified because they were getting ticked off.
Why don't even not even just there but they're ticked off with just some important -- entertainment to distract us from other things that are.
Going on -- I know that a politician.
Put -- football team on the field and -- like football.
I'm really gonna focus on that I'm not gonna focus on the decline in schools are not gonna focus on the roads falling apart -- other things that may be going on and maybe some of those things politicians really can't.
Help but it's certainly something that individuals and citizens can focus on -- it is is a positive thing.
For our community and that's why they're so confident politicians.
Some of the things I've learned of this conference that most gladiators were slaves or prisoners of war.
90% of survive the fight.
Because it would be expensive.
To the owner of the slave if they were killed.
-- I believe if if if you end up at the -- was killed that you'd have to pay the owner of the that you didn't want them.
This is this was apparently entertainment for the time and at the time seeing death on the streets every -- wasn't something that was not uncommon so it's something that people enjoyed and one of the city and you know we have luckily we have much more pacifist exports if you want to use that word -- -- -- we don't have death.
And in fact we're trying to make our sport safer so it it it sort of the difference in the way that we view.
Those competitions today than they were once.
The arrogance of the emperor's increased.
In a hundred's 69 BC 63.
And African lions and leopards forty bears.
Elephants were hunted down.
In a single to date -- Tigers crocodiles giraffes hippopotamus they would bring them in from all over the world to kill them in the -- with sometimes kill them himself.
-- today we have sausage races is hot club seats luxury boxes so we.
You know it's -- but definitely the same thing it gets more and more extravagant.
And that's the same type of attitude that they -- Roman empire that we have today.
So at least problematic as our politicians are they are not that bad thank you JC bread very -- And when I said that bad -- barely touched the serve -- of how bad the Roman -- work that's next.
It's not American.
No thank goodness we're not as bad in a hundred -- yes.
Our taxes are actually higher than both groups but we don't have flags.
And we don't kill people for his sport.
When we go to war.
Misguided or not we don't conquer or plunder.
And when we win we usually leave.
In America poor people now live better than the murders did we have air conditioning.
Flush toilets longer alive.
Thanks for the example set by George Washington and our president's actually leave office.
And although our current president waste money on extravagant travel like his recent hundred million dollar trip to Africa.
Nero was much worse.
He never wore the same clothes twice.
And when he traveled you traveled with a thousand carriages.
The emperor a -- a bullets or however you pronounce his name is set up a brothel in the palace.
-- various established an office of imperial pleasures.
Which gathered beautiful boys and girls from all corners of the world -- -- -- -- -- put it the emperor could -- -- -- Gillis said to have made his favorite course a senator.
As depicted here.
When -- you.
-- -- -- -- Did everything.
Even President Obama wouldn't do that.
So arrogance as our politicians -- repugnant as with any of them are.
They are at least not hampers who like molecular.
Held orgies and executed the senators' wives who didn't show up.
But -- matters because empires -- crumble.
Rove blasted the longest of all of them the Ottoman Empire was next -- lasted 600 years.
Then the Spanish almost that long as did the British.
We've lasted less than 300 years.
We're doing better than Alexander the Great his empire only less than thirteen years.
But in our 250 years we've accomplished amazing things amazing.
We just can't take it for granted because free and prosperous.
The natural state of things in human history it's rare.
We now are starting to look a lot like Rome and we ought to worry about that that's our -- thank you for coming.
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