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And turning to affairs -- -- on the scandal at the Internal Revenue Service.
Our next guest one of those targeted by the IRS and he believes the ongoing scandals given people a new reason to be enraged join us.
Joining us -- a leader of the southwest Cincinnati Tea Party George Brennaman good to have you with us George.
I -- especially Emmy Lou I've just got to ask have you got your.
Your road tax exempt.
Actually we didn't even bother filing our lawyer at the time said you know the IRS isn't gonna granted to use -- don't bother doing it.
One of the -- I don't know enough in Ohio the pardon I said the son of -- guns I come -- let's fight that's America.
Still get it well -- I thought we were fighting through the Ohio liberty coalition they were working with the ACL -- to go after the IRS on their application and they were won the first and actually.
Got it coincidentally it was a month and a day after the 2012 election -- convenient but it.
It's been a crazy fight all along.
-- and a crazy five.
-- you're fighting the Internal Revenue Service which is a really bad agencies have picked a fight with.
-- that you say that because you want into our created a a tax exempt organization you and your wife were targeted right.
Well actually we were targeted for.
A completely independent reason my wife was the treasurer of the local Tea Party and in 2010 and we had made a deposit on behalf of the Tea Party.
And we got a call an early 2012 about the same time that the iris was targeting conservative groups but we got a call from a personal audit saying you know.
Because of your association with the Cincinnati Tea Party you're gonna receive a personal audit.
And when they came to the house they basically shut down my wife's business for a couple of days she does taxes for a living.
And you know we had to produce documentation for every deposit into our personal accounts every reason behind that.
But yet they don't wanna know a thing about the Tea Party accounts of the Tea Party accounting it was there was very little confused that not -- They're auditing you.
Personally rather than -- an audit of Butler told Jews and that there were already you personally because of your association with the tea part.
That's correct and what did -- sure you've got an attorney surely you've got accountants.
What are they saving you.
We actually did not go to attorneys or towns.
You know typical Americans we take care of the problem ourselves spent.
It wasn't until we realize how large this problem was at the very first the Ways and Means Committee hearing I went up to DC and around with some of the other groups from Ohio.
In a room full about when he Tea Party leaders -- five of us had received personal audits already so it's it's fairly widespread.
All of that's happened here you're not -- days with attorneys -- are working with a group of folks.
As you said.
I'm curious -- a Tea Party going to be in 2014.
Because the Tea Party was basically neutralized.
In part -- -- of what they are terrorists did perhaps in conjunction with the Obama White House.
-- all for Avaya organization for action that is from the president's private political army out there.
His foot soldiers.
Electorally and for lobbying.
They're gonna be powerful.
In Tony fourteen.
And I get the feeling when I talked to Republicans and conservatives they don't even know what fights about level on how how they're -- waged the war.
Why can't speak for nationwide but certainly in Ohio I think big conservative groups delivered -- liberty groups the Tea Party groups.
In 2012 we were the foot soldiers for the the Ohio GOP there's no doubt about it where you're -- -- assured -- -- -- -- and George.
You guys are good night for adding that -- true 2000 target guys were while you were -- And everybody needs to understand and -- the -- You may have even been better than they -- party regulars.
But the result was awful.
The result was awful and in heavily county we had taken Andrea rather personal the Wall Street Journal on January 3 it said there's going to be three counties in the United States that determine the outcome -- number one was him in the county Ohio.
And we lost here after you know fairly significant effort so what are you gonna do -- -- a combination of.
I mean I talk to -- that was the Tea Party all over the country some -- -- just you know some folks are great.
And as some organizations.
And others are talking like -- have no clue what they're doing.
It is it perhaps time for the Tea Party to say you there's you know.
And I either lead follow or get out all the way.
Because you guys just keep -- you don't have some of you say you don't have leaders that is in the way you work.
I don't even understand the way the tea parties organized in many parts of the country.
Well and -- You just gave a speech I've given several times and that is I I don't think prior to 2012 I understood the game near his wells I do after 2012.
And I think that's very rare in this in the Tea Party there's very few leaders that that get the fact that this whole politics thing really is a game.
And you have a rule it out and play it even if you don't like the rules you gotta learn how to play very hard I mean some of us have learned our lessons.
Well George I and it's time for us to take over well I I look forward to watching exactly that happened and I -- you and the Tea Party -- in Ohio all the very best.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Bob -- thanks thank you.
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