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If for food stamps a provision that the senate version guarantees.
And last year were so many people out of work more than 46 million Americans took part.
In the food stamp program costing taxpayers seven before -- -- Should the farm bill and the food stamp funding be dealt with separately and how what all of this affect the economy.
But -- now -- Wall Street Journal senior economic writer Steve Moore and Steve.
I know this is a little walk -- a little arcane the farm bill comes up what is -- once every five years that's right and all of a sudden.
Unless you're in the farming business you don't think much about it but.
I don't think a lot of people knew that the food stamp program was even part of all of this should -- should -- be separated this is where the argument seems to life.
That's a great point you know a lot of people don't understand that the food stamp program which is one of our biggest entitlements.
You know with forty.
47 million Americans collecting benefits now that's one out of every seven -- -- That is not part of the welfare.
AJ just budget that's part of the department agriculture budget because this comes under nutrition and so you're right what really.
Makes these farm bill so expensive and by the way when you talk about entitlements which you and I've talked a lot about on the shelf.
He'd tell you we all know that what's bankrupting the country is the entitlements to of the really big entitlements come under the farm bill the food stamp program.
And then a lot of these farm crop subsidy programs are also entitlements and I believe -- this is what happened my house last week.
But by separating out these two you can actually reform both -- up something we haven't done in fifty year.
-- itself it sounds like somebody shot him.
Well they they don't want the sunshine.
As well -- on this because we will start going oh my gosh look how much we're spending on.
This program and on that program.
Still -- have my labor my impression I was at the farmers in the end of end of the agriculture everybody wants this to be together so that.
Exactly it's it's all a -- That's right and this is something that is really been a mystery in Washington for at least twenty or thirty years you've had this.
What we call an unholy a lot -- between that.
World farm state Republicans.
And their urban.
You know welfare state Democrats.
That come together and pass these obese farm bill should have done and it's this unholy alliance that you want to crack.
By separating out the -- that's what the house did last week.
Now this is not resolved by any means as you know this now goes to way.
Our conference the senate already passed a farm bill that is loaded up with all sorts of subsidies let me just give you one example polyps -- of these programs are.
If you are a farmer quote farmer I use that word -- quotations because a lot of people get farm subsidies aren't really been bombers.
If you have up to a million dollars of outside in -- So let's say you're Wall Street investment banker that makes them -- oh million dollars you can still be eligible for -- -- food for this up Barbara agriculture subsidies I mean is that absurd watch.
Yeah I died I don't have a farm here in Manhattan yeah about applying insane I won't I won't grow corn.
-- like middle of Manhattan if you give me some money they'll pay you right yes I gotta get -- on this deal but.
Seriously that of the food industry has got to be.
Really supportive of this to companies that applied to foods on our grocery store shelves they've got to be got to look at.
We got 72 billion dollars worth of customers out there don't disturb this program they buy a lot of.
Our food well that's really good point -- is that the the grocery stores and so on they want food stamps because as you say that's seventy billion dollars of customers there's a big debate about.
Whether you know it's soft drinks and then got you know sweet drinks like you know I've got a Coca-Cola here should you pay for those with -- -- -- You know there's a big debate about that because as you know you know soft drinks guys contribute to obesity so there's all sorts of -- mixed issues here.
But what I find it's interesting when you go back to the farm crop subsidies.
Is -- you know this look at what is happening in the farm economy today you've got record up prices for agricultural land.
-- -- -- and we then -- rice and other.
Commodities are doing very well answer me this question why do we need to provide -- providing subsidies not a farmers who are making out like bandits.
-- and not talk to farmers who.
Agree with you a 1000%.
They -- they say no let it letters compete on on of for our free market based just absolutely what's houses gonna play out because again you've got.
What this is another one of these stories -- you've got.
People in the house and the senate of the same party that aren't that aren't agreeing on this.
You know when the house passed its bill separating the bills last week.
I have never in fifteen years seen Nancy Pelosi so angry so the Democrats are extremely angry about this they do not want -- reform.
Food stamps and where there are some obvious reforms that should be done we should be put it we should we have work requirements for able bodied.
Adults were collecting food stamps we chef Todd time limits on food stamps we should have asset -- -- believe it or not you can be living and I'll mention.
Fifth Avenue in new York and if you're income balls you can be eligible for puts him -- that there's a lot of craziness in these programs and hopefully what we're gonna see -- this goes to conference.
Is some real honest to goodness common sense reforms in both of these obese welfare.
All right it's skip this the heat is getting to you Steve common sense then congress in the same sentence -- Ellen yeah.
Say out of the -- today I think it's guest speaker.
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