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Now to our top story tonight house takes on Obama care again the house set to vote this hour to delay the individual and employer mandates in Obama care.
Even though the White House has issued a year delay on the employer mandate for companies.
President Obama has threatened to veto any bill that delays his signature locked -- away and Doug Holtz Aiken present for the American action forum.
Doug always great to have you wanna show -- gesture British -- pictures.
Of the floor and the conversation continues.
I I have to tell you.
We've seen this movie before and it doesn't end well but tell us why Republicans are saying it.
Look at you didn't delay.
What companies have to deal went -- delay and get rid of the individual mandate what's their thinking.
I'm still -- -- linked if employers don't report.
About health insurance today exchanges into the government obamacare.
I think individually and it can't really be enforced very well it can't been forced to we'll begin with -- -- so.
If you don't have one you probably can't have the other.
As a matter of just superficial fairness it seems odd to say to Americans you need to have health insurance and say little -- -- corporations don't worry about it.
And I think the most important thing is -- it's not that the movie ends badly it's who gets to be the critic.
That's not the Obama administration has.
Has again and again just been moving the goalposts on what constitutes success nature of the class that's -- -- -- -- said well I would never cared about that you know -- -- that -- in reporting was an important.
This small business shopping -- away well no big deal and now.
He played man at the we don't need that well actually the Republicans alike don't you mean some of the stuff and this is about.
-- it's it in the insurance exchanges are in trouble insurers are pulling out of exchanges in California this and they don't want to participate.
It seems to me that with the president's done by telling companies they don't have to play one of the things that's happening is you're kind of the whole financial mechanics of the law falling apart here.
Could this plot -- the way it's gonna kind of -- role in to head into being kind of in this strange.
There are two different outcomes both of which are bad in different ways the one you mentioned is one where.
We really get -- participation especially from young Americans they're they're bad insurance pools of expensive insurance.
And it melts down and that's a serious conservatives have had states try Obama can elect experiments without the individual mandate and it and they turned out -- exactly that bad.
There's another possibility which is that the employer -- just says look we've had a -- this business you -- insure people.
In which case this is an extraordinarily expensive operation and ends badly for American taxpayer but there's no good news in here anywhere from the point -- -- Along result no good result and so now you know.
The president tomorrow is going to be speaking this right he plans to -- yet again get in front of the American people and pound the table about obamacare that's right that's for -- We went back and it's sort of an informal survey a rough specimen of the numbers of times that the present has done -- ten times.
Six of those in 2010 alone.
Is this working I mean it and it's like the most intense public campaign of ever seeing.
Well remember the White House woke up Jenner when 2013.
And it's only job was to find out how to declare victory on general in 2014.
So it doesn't matter what actually goes on out there they're going to find a way to say.
It's working just fine we pass this -- -- signature achievement and the president part of that sales job but.
You will remember that the last time around said things are fine it was only a few weeks later that suddenly the employer mandate was gone for years so.
I'm not sure those reassurances will ring true.
Is it is the consensus on this even among Democrats falling apart -- -- -- Yes there's a lot of concern.
Their concerns about the mechanics of of the exchanges and all the information has to be -- from used to.
To a government hub two different agencies and insurance companies back to the states.
That that might not work it might not be secure Democrats are aware of that -- there's been no testing to our our knowledge of these and you know that's a big concern and even -- information all worked just fine employers don't have to report.
Individuals can lie about there and come it it could follow your heart and love crowds.
At one more question here and people don't talk a lot about the talk about what's going on in Washington with Obama care right the fight with Republicans the battle Royale between the parties.
But in reality what's going on is the industry is changing dramatically.
The ground that -- are very -- standing on when it comes to health care shifting.
What's the net net impact of that.
I think there are.
There are three important developments one -- that.
Health and she's getting very concentrated we've seen -- -- buying -- doctor practices and there's no good news in economic monopoly so I'm very concerned about the concentration the industry.
The second is that states -- -- in charge Health Care Reform.
The rules they set up for who gets to offer insurance are exchanges and and how let that -- policies we'll get covered.
Is crucial and so it has shifted from Washington for good reason.
And the third is that for the average American this is mysterious as ever and this is done nothing to improve the fundamentals of what they care -- Just love the idea of government running a business that always works out sellout but that's.
Doug thanks for coming out so good to see it come back soon.
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