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Well the red zone is right the government might still but it sure has a whole lot of culprits -- -- out among them scores of high tech companies that not only good.
Hand over the information by the NSA pass but according to Snowden -- the back door open just in case they wanna come back and get some more.
To the search engine that says Uncle Sam to just -- time because it won't be given up the thing and promises its users no one is going to be tracking them.
That engine is cold -- that go and the guy creating -- is cracking joins is now CO Gabriel Weinberg Gibril.
Have you stick to the please stick to that prompts so when you search anything on Internet or go to any website you're automatically sending various information metadata that we keep going to -- right.
We do is that -- throw that information away we throw that metadata way so that.
We -- -- completely and not mess searches so some more to come to us and ask yes you know hand over data.
-- -- We literally can't do that to don't have -- and win.
He'll designed that you guys is overtaken brilliant thing that you have ways and you know.
That's the beauty of it is.
You nearly throw it away and never -- -- desk -- story.
-- so even if someone's -- lawyers servers for instance or or hack into your system which has happened to have big tech companies.
There's still no way to expect -- have you -- running.
That's an idiotic it is a myth that web search and is it attracts you to make money we make money the same way they do which is servant had based on the keyword and not the person -- you type then.
-- a car you get a car -- It's pretty simple.
But are you keeping track of the number of times is that I mention the -- car.
Now that's all all they have what it might just be one time I did car and that's what's doing it or exactly what stews you at least -- -- -- first time so it's all in real time see you type in car you get a car add the next day you comment I've been mortgage.
So you don't have these big old size of Rhode Island servers that are keeping track of Walden -- data center and you -- OK so let's say now.
The DNS that it -- to come to do and say.
Tool to collect all your records would -- We say.
The laws are structured that you can't force -- company to change this business practices understood what this city of judge's order that's right but still the order says.
All the orders are not turning over existing business records or to have preservation orders or care about.
Enabling you to keep records for longer such a star for twenty for hours you know start for two weeks.
Since we don't have any records there's really nothing to compel us to turn over.
But what's to stop me as -- -- agents say you know this -- too clever for words I -- he does have that stuff.
I'm gonna take over as a woman to get access to this -- moment.
Prove that he does have great if they thought we had access and and we're trying to hack us.
Or came to this court order you know we knew we would be compelled to turn over our data and that's why we don't start -- -- Do you find the Google's in the apples and the others who had given information.
They saved -- for national security reasons -- they were told that the time.
Do so easily do so almost too easily.
You know it's a little unclear from all the statements floating around.
But what is clear is that.
The presumption for big tech companies is to store as much data as possible and hope that you know they can use it later for something useful.
And they're -- Google says he keeps his stuff so it could targeted ads -- no you know whatever food and I think most of -- just captain not used but.
The reality is that there is a -- court order whatever that turned out to be valid whenever we decide this constitutional line.
If it's still valid they have determined the data and because the data exist they're gonna have to turn.
-- ever so what do you make it when it's known tells an interview in Europe -- -- who's talking about this that.
A lot of due to sort of back door open which I think -- you know as far better than I.
The government to come back again.
And sort of checked flights out.
Well there was a story out today that companies have been charging you know the government rather -- right for wiretapping and access and what that says to me is that there are systems in place to deal with these requests and the volume when I was in the government.
Doesn't need -- consistency I didn't just sort of bullet makes either for the company right and I getting thousands and thousands of requests.
You gotta do something and handed over easily.
And that that's -- -- worry right is that that's become too easy has your business.
Grown since its old stone -- -- different.
Yeah I mean we always if people didn't -- be tracked -- Really this on the what to do about it and so what this is really revealed is that there are private alternatives you can switch to a little sacrifice and so we've seen -- You know our users spreading it to their friends and family and say okay.
You know -- he's a search engine that gets very results but also doesn't -- -- we've been up about 90% since there's no -- assist news cycle that we looked on.
It's just put the ball park on a question do you think it's -- a hero.
You know it's a little too early to tell him out and -- if you need if you can whistle blow in this manner and say in the US I think.
That's -- -- the fact that he didn't stay in new it's takes a way to -- it.
The free speech hero.
-- -- -- to do you know there was a editorial by Daniel Ellsberg the other day and the palace and now pentagon papers and he had an NN it was.
It was pretty compelling that.
You would have to leave the country and so I don't really know what to make -- but I know that.
I like there's an open discussion about the constitutional lines of the stuff but I think that it's great to be in public and -- private I don't like it all been secret.
Been through Beirut thank you very much.
-- -- -- -- and -- you know on fire right now.
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