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Let's get to these reports of US spying on our European allies is apparently the Europeans are.
Are crazy about this they're angry Steve Moore the senior economics writer at the Wall Street Journal joins us now from Washington DC it's always good to see you Stephen.
I -- you know this job all goes back tell Edwards Snowden and more leaked us hot minute in a German magazine.
And should what should we make of this today the US spying apparently on the Europeans here in Washington and other places and does it hurt our diplomatic relations made this country is -- -- and.
-- sure does and you know one of the things that.
That we're now realizing as as how big -- breach of security.
This -- -- incident has been -- you know it's really.
Just ripped wide open down a lot of our you know espionage and and spying technique -- And I and it techniques to try to track down terrorists and that's one of my big concerns by the way Connell I mean I'm just -- hot dog.
The war on terrorism I want the US to use whatever means it can.
Two out to find these people want to murder us.
But you know the real link here I think is to our relations with Europeans who absolutely.
Our extremely upset about this information coming forward.
You know you wonder what this is gonna do to our trade ties with these companies -- countries which are so important.
And that's what I thought was the big thing about China because when it started and that that eluding.
In this case to cyber.
Security when you when the news came out.
But with what's -- who was doing it's hard for the US to go to China and say listen you gotta stop spying on -- stop these cyber attacks and everything else with the -- leaks being.
It that is so that's probably I would think are most important bilateral relationship but now you -- -- the European so it is if you if news like this comes out.
It's not the news that shocks us necessarily it's the impact after in other words -- city -- -- were spying on the European.
Guessing they're going oh my goodness we -- mean you are shocked by that part of that where you.
Well -- collect that we know a lot of these terrorists networks are grounded in -- -- you know Connell we just we know that's all right I wasn't too surprised to learn about this information I was very.
Distrust to learn that has been made public let me circle back to China -- -- for a minute you know where we've been talking about trade relations with Europe.
But it what's going -- with storm right now -- and the fact that that China has not been cooperative I think it's a big big problem.
With respect to our our economic relationships going for which -- -- this is not a small incidents this is something central to American national security that China has not cooperating -- so -- -- -- -- China has become our major trading partner.
I think there's going to be some blowback.
Because -- -- -- and that's the economic story that's when we'll probably focus on longer term is important the Chinese relationship let me give me two headlines.
To transfer to Russia for one moment that crossed on the Reuters -- just as -- used -- of us for coming on the air.
This is very very instinct his first one said Vladimir Putin is saying that Russia will never hand over -- Members been -- that Russian airport apparently for a week which is something this time here right.
And then Putin says okay if -- wants to stay in Russia he must quote stop his work aimed at harming our American partners.
But wait a minute so if he wants to stay there he has to stop what he's doing but we're never handing him over so I don't know how the Russians play and all this -- what you think about.
I think it's outrageous you know I think Russia has been -- you know almost -- it's in their treatment of Snowden and they should hand him over.
He he is say is -- Cromwell he's put someone who has put we now know American lives that in great great danger.
And the fact that that Russia is not cooperating I think is is just outrageous and you know this has big implications for our -- Relations going for with -- I mean they're supposed to be an out -- embarrassed for goodness -- right.
And that's -- wooten apparently talking out of at least two sides -- -- -- -- -- I mean I cannot interpret those debates because -- -- -- kind of contradictory things but both of those things and I picked it out of -- agrees not to do anything else -- he -- bid to be extradited and he has to be put on trial for the crimes -- already committed you have one of the most say it just in combination of those two headlines and I'll -- you'll get more clarification later but -- just.
Just ridiculous when you put a book together they were never had the Bolivar but -- doesn't.
Stop harming those Americans weight what so that's where we are thinking yeah I think he's done plenty of self harm our -- yes exactly right by releasing what is that Steve thanks good to talk to you that as a -- shot.
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