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The I arrest bias against Tea Party groups that's -- stuff that.
Farm subsidies Ben -- corporate welfare -- the minimum wage it's all disgusting I can go on a hundred times in fact he could probably get to 200.
But government computers standing everybody's phone records to see patterns that might lead to terrorists.
-- -- -- -- -- -- To -- to Polycom also they shouldn't be I should be furious so.
Educate me I think you should be furious.
Because you believe that we have natural rights that come from our humanity.
Among which is the right to be left alone.
To preserve the right to be left alone the right -- left alone by terrorists you will also want to be left alone by the government.
Because if the government doesn't leave you alone you'll have no privacy.
And people do not behave normally naturally or to their full extent when they're being watched by the government and -- need the government's permission.
When the government knows.
Every phone call we make from where we make the call.
Tool whom we make the -- how long the call was where they work.
And can plug that into their algorithms they can predict all kinds of behavior about us and they are not entitled to any of it under the constitution.
Without a search warrant it I still just don't personally feel the threat.
I give up all this private information much will order Google and FaceBook what you do so willing.
You can decide not to deal with -- government is of course correct book and Carol government is forced now you're coming around John you cannot avoid the -- that right of course or end FaceBook can't lock me up or assessment correct and I have I -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- look -- -- -- I think it is -- -- in kids.
-- intercepting it in the year and your -- you're in -- nation is not out there it's flying through the years these these electronic waves.
Don't what you assume media matters is -- -- some of your information media matters does not protect me from the government the Fourth Amendment does.
Media matters just like Fox News just like Google and FaceBook are free to do things that the government is not free to do.
That's why we have this fourth and then to keep the government out of our bank books and out of our bedrooms and frankly John off our backs which is worse.
That are renegade former spy divulge the truth about government lawbreaking or that government officials lie about what he exposed.
And picking up a year which is worst theme for something else.
I have anchor fatigue is this worse there are seventeen trillion dollar debt -- the drug war than what we've done to American Indians and so one.
I don't know if it is worse than that but it could lead to something that's worse -- Currently the CI -- slow yes of course to the to the slippery slope I mean a single phone call in the computer.
Of a single spy is innocuous.
But all of our phone calls in the air revealing everything about ourselves exposing our innermost thoughts and and behavior to the government.
Will eventually turn us into east Germany.
Where the government knows who did wrong.
And the government knows who knows who did wrong.
And the government prosecutes people who didn't squeal on their neighbors in the last five years of that society -- less frequently prosecuted crime.
Was the failure to turn in one's -- do we really want that society here that's what this will be our -- we do not but then.
What do you say about two respected libertarians you know who they are I assume you respect them.
Richard Epstein right people and wrote the critics to be more credible -- -- can't identify a pattern of government abuses but after twelve years of continuing practices.
They can't site even a single case they are they're both friends of mine and friends and colleagues and viewers.
And we disagree profoundly if seizing the private thoughts.
Of every American is not a pattern of government abuse I don't know what is thinking that this way the government's powers derived from the consent of the governed.
Did you consent to this do you know anybody got it up I don't consented to -- -- that the terrorism fear is overblown but people who are frightened consent to this thinking consent to it for themselves but not for the rest of us thank you.
Here's what our president said in response to criticism about the NSA -- If people can't trust not only the executive branch but also don't trust congress and don't trust.
To make sure there were abiding by the constitution due process and rule of law then we're gonna have some problems.
An absolute canard after Ben -- the Associated Press the rose an affair and the IRS nobody trusts his administration.
And who would trust congress when they like senator Wyden who's heart is in the right place.
We're told with the NSA was doing but took an oath not to reveal it and who would trust these federal judges who granted.
Of every applications soared well for a you have for oversight but congress and these federal judges transparency.
When the public knows what's going on the government will be afraid to trample our -- the government has created a bizarre system.
-- secret courts and secret information to the congress congressman know about it they can't tell anybody bad they can't vote about.
It's based on secrecy.
Mean maybe we should I do -- they can spy on farmers all they want.
But I didn't authorize a government to spy on me and you didn't authorize this government to spy on you -- I did not.
But I wonder if there's not some justification.
In NSA spying thank you judge I'll keep trying to learn from you and others up next.
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