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-- -- he's compiled a list of things that the government does that -- justice bad if not worse than what Edwards Snowden says the NSA does he still he's got his list.
It's a long list showing that.
Yes it is I want you to give me the top three items on that list that all woods each one -- -- -- -- -- not only three yes I know it's a hundred less than a symbol that.
But you get in the top three of the woods that wants -- did.
Federal alone law that we're supposed to all the well all -- talking about what Snowden did.
Because what he did was to.
Basically it was an act of treason.
He gave valuable intelligence information to Al rivals and enemies.
Pages a federal regulation is worse -- Macs I don't think so.
I'd certainly do in terms of affect on our life bankrupting the country did but constant deficit spending.
Obama care all of that this is one individual revealing something that.
Probably most of the terrorists already assumed was happening he hasn't given out any.
Specific names -- putting anybody at risk as far as we know yet I'm not saying as we learn more this won't prove to be more horrible.
I'm actually got confused because I thought you were talking about the end and what this is his.
Worse than the NSA -- because I think there's arguments on both sides but do you think is no argument against that supports this stuff this is just insane government waste government waste government entanglement in our lives is far war us.
Then the government collecting information.
Right because collecting information they can do it more invasive -- with a cop in every corner this doesn't seem to.
Be all that invasive and people do want to kill -- -- now may be further facts will come moniker as a regular run of the -- conservative not a libertarian.
Yeah but I do agree with John Stossel on most things.
And on this I think you know the challenges the balance between liberty and security that they even founding fathers struggled with -- part of our founding documents.
The question here is that the NSA scandals coming in a broader context of the Department of Justice scandals snooping on reporters the IRS scandal that massive abuse of power there.
And so I think the concern is while it might be a legitimate tracking down terrorists looking for patterns.
You can have make an argument -- but what is he argument to say that this government under whoever is president might not abuse that information and use it against you.
No argument all governments abused power power tends to corrupt and I don't trust.
Any other government more than.
I don't think Obama is necessarily less trustworthy than all the other governments as they get bigger they get worse and worse what will come next may be still works it's dangerous.
The iris is different -- no defense for the -- of spying that was just political abuse.
That's true but there is a defense for the -- -- in a safe spot you don't like the fact of the government deployed 22 million people.
That's really bad.
Every government is force that it's millions of people who can wreck your life in anyways.
So keep government super small.
Keep that -- -- to a fresh three solid super at all is that the nature of your show on the Fox Business Network tonight -- tonight we debate the NSA.
Both pro and con and I'm still trying to -- so you as a libertarian -- extreme military has got its.
But the libertarians are mad at me and I -- I.
The extreme libertarians are usually right -- left.
What we should be watching tonight was at 9 o'clock eastern 9 o'clock in the name of the show us docile it's a great name but this isn't it I won't mispronouncing his article about the possible you -- set off -- -- get out pleased by.
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