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My next guest was in the house oversight committee hearing today.
And says the IRS is now an institution that in his judgment is one -- ill.
Joining us now is congressman -- the -- member of the house oversight and Judiciary Committee is good to have you with -- congressman.
I had revenue.
I have to say when that fellow -- in that chair.
And what they're congress -- Kevin Duckworth I mean.
That's one of the most infuriating images I've seen.
A long time and how could you stand.
We have this is a guy who injured his foot when he was in military prep school.
Never served active duty at all and yet 27 years later he claims a service connected disability.
To be able to get preferential treatment and to qualify for these programs so it was obviously a fleecing of -- taxpayer.
And an abuse of his service disabilities I gotta tell yet.
You know I'm a former prosecutor.
And -- see more people with the IRS take the Fifth Amendment.
Then I did when I was prosecuting cases.
This is the second person.
And about six weeks that's done it.
And the problem.
That that I see with this -- -- the American people aren't getting answers but to do when these individuals take the Fifth Amendment we know that there was misconduct because that's plain to see.
Nothing happens this gentleman today was placed on -- administrative leave he's.
-- 500 million dollars worth the contracts.
To his body a company that had about 250000.
Dollars in total revenue before the IRS got involved.
-- did he -- my -- Did he break the -- congressman.
-- I think almost -- almost certainly there were there are laws that were broken if you look at the relationship that they had.
If you look at the amount of money at stake.
And if you look at the fact that this -- -- company they did not do very much business and then all of a sudden bruising guy you're all right.
Well it had been for for two years prior to this.
It did about 250000.
Dollars in revenue each of those years and all of a -- -- when he well when the individual what you mentioned that who claimed the disability.
Purchase the company.
They start getting.
Millions and millions of dollars worth the virus work and so.
It's not above board but the problem is is.
Yeah we always see these things happen and people in the IRS they -- what we're identifying problems we need more training -- this the problem goes much deeper that it's a culture of Eric.
Yes it's an institution that what an irony isn't what do you -- gonna do about it I mean what we're watching here.
I mean IRS can't even apparently fine art and this president find a person to serve as a commissioner.
Of the Internal Revenue Service its acting commissioner acting commissioner interim commissioner.
I and this is it an organization you you say there are terminally ill.
What is going through what you're going to get this thing fixed and bring in somebody with -- integrity believe the organization.
To get it straightened -- I mean this is no longer I mean we've got 161000.
New agents being hired soon just.
Well obviously you know in the house we would like to do a major overall we'd like to hold these people accountable were limited we're gonna bring -- -- back.
-- -- I think he waived her Fifth Amendment right on Friday and we're gonna vote on whether he -- it.
Phenomena -- to say he -- did she needs to answer the American people's questions the problem though is that the executive branch is not really interested.
Investigating and holding people accountable we had the director of the FBI in front of the Judiciary Committee couple weeks ago.
He did not even know who was leading the IRS investigation that tells me -- Department of Justice is not too concerned with this problem well.
And use the Senate Judiciary Committee you all have certain influences that you can bring to a certain point you can bring to bear.
This is going to have to be is it seems to me if you feel that there is a lack of popular will round.
The outrage that is obviously built in Washington and other parts of the country.
I mean you've got to do something here in a different way.
Perhaps faster perhaps deeper.
In the investigation more -- more.
And more facts to put front and the American people.
Absolutely and I think we also need to understand that from a policy perspective I think the IRS is really.
-- its point of usefulness I think we need to move to a -- -- flat tax.
Give the government less power over the individual and allow people to be able to make decisions for themselves.
-- -- this way you would have to worry about some of these IRS officials misbehaving.
I would love to have a fair tax -- flat tax cent percentage.
Just like I think most Americans.
But I think one of the surest ways to damage the investigation right now is for you all to get caught up in tax code reform.
When what you gotta do is get rid of a bunch of us makes -- really lousy.
-- management at the Ira.
A -- thank you for being with -- always good to talk -- -- -- congressman Ron -- Up.
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