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The Obama administration today urged Russia to expel -- -- to return him to this country.
The face espionage charges but our next guests say Russian prime minister Vladimir Putin is essentially thumbing his nose at us.
Joining us now former pentagon official Fox -- national security analyst.
KT McFarland former ambassador to the United Nations.
Fox News contributor John ball.
Can give -- me first are we here I mean Oden looks like he's having a lot of fun right now the president Obama's expense.
-- it is now that the President Obama this entire thing is -- an -- Super Bowl ring.
From the New England Patriots president he's -- on the -- now -- it's just it's actually quite tragic.
Because -- -- -- -- the -- -- present the United States cares no credibility whatsoever and it hits China and Russia making fun of them today.
And and thumbing their analysis that -- -- tomorrow if Iran and Venezuela and the next day if other countries once that starts.
Where other countries and other leaders have no respect for present -- that it is a cascading.
And John Jay Carney -- -- press spokesman said today China and Hong Kong made eight as he put it a deliberate decision.
I deliberate decision let's don't leave Hong Kong for Russia as we presume that's Rory is.
And that is -- question -- has a negative impact on US China relations.
Focusing on the Chinese side of this.
This trilogy if you will.
What are what are your thoughts.
Well you know I think it's a demonstration of the Chinese couldn't care less what the White House says you know did it did we really.
Do all that we could to persuade them not to let -- go did the president -- Chinese president.
He shouldn't take.
Did secretary Kerry -- his counterpart had they called their counterparts in Russia.
You know when when you don't convey the seriousness of your message and you don't make it clear that there will be consequences or if they.
Other country doesn't believe there are consequences if it's gonna be doomed to failure which is what has happened so I think we've got not just state lack of respect for the present we've got.
Real diplomatic and confidence on display here.
Yeah overall national security implication to -- I was in China last month and talked to the Chinese thanks -- minister.
And said you know the biggest issue between the United States and China right now as a cyber assurance that -- -- cyber hacking cyber espionage and he said in a very briskly telephone.
You're the ones who were hacking much you're the ones who were spying on us.
What we had no proof of that -- -- We certainly have proof that the Chinese were doing that to us we had no proof that we are doing it to the Chinese except Snowdon has -- said well.
United States NSA is reading the Chinese text messages off the Chinese.
So fast so what does that say that we have now given them the Chinese a major concession.
In our bilateral relationship.
-- both you and the ambassador are about what we have done and what this administration has done or not.
Putting the responsibility in the United States -- -- ask you both.
This seems to me and has from announced arguments from the very outset.
That this looked to me like a very carefully conceived and executed.
Espionage plan carried out by the Chinese I don't think maybe Chinese and the Russians and the reason I say that.
Is the coincident.
-- -- And then the summit -- ends on the eighth of June the guardian is publishing on the fifth.
And laying out.
I -- court records.
They are also on June ninth identifying Snowden.
As the is the culprit here.
It looks like -- and a concerted and well executed effort ambassador.
To destroy this summit.
Don't blow back against what were the administrations and number one.
Point of contention and on their agenda that is Chinese cyber attacks against the United States it was.
Blown away in this one.
Act by snowed.
Well wet weather it was pre planned or not several things I think are clear I think everything that Snowdon has done before and -- laptop computers that he took with them is now in Chinese hands it's very hard to believe.
That they didn't extract everything they could from those computers and I think the Russians are doing exactly the same thing now.
So for all those who say that Snowden was -- truth teller and -- whistle blower.
You know he has given our adversaries.
Critical information and people who who have reason to fear what might be on those computers say that the damage it's got -- because.
To our intelligence gathering and capabilities is just incalculable has nothing to do with the programs that -- -- -- NSA has said exactly that directly to the congress of the United States talking about the lasting damage.
The significant damage.
-- and this point.
What does this administration have available through it.
Two to seek out find and returned Snowden to justice for everybody.
Well they they should go to the Russians and -- a part of the problem is that this is a pattern and so nobody feels the president Obama's gonna be tough enough to do anything.
But with the Russians they could go the Russians and say that missile shield that we canceled as a goodwill gesture.
We're free thinking that policy but could also go to them and say look you want American help -- American technology to develop the eastern -- -- -- -- You know -- do you fifth because of the way you're treating us this slap on the eighth generation of both miles the finances.
-- the to the group here at my hope would be that we have intelligence process.
Such that we would not need to go through diplomatic channels but we've -- exactly he will certain amount of justice the United States.
That is appropriate and I'll just leave it in those sort of a truce terms.
Thank you very much they threw the barrel restaurant job bowl -- -- --
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