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Iran's presidential election put an end to a -- would have been a immunity -- -- -- hostile take your.
And now his more moderate success or or and so they say is set to take place will president elect to Sandra hardly.
Change Iran's -- our relationship with the rest of the world joining me now is research associate.
At MIT's security studies program doctor Jim Walsh and Jim.
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What are you know well this guy -- Well I he's one -- met two of the eight presidential candidates who ran in that election.
And I know about real -- I visited his think tank not know a lot of folks who work there most of them tend to be reformers are pragmatists are centrist.
Now you know is -- gonna that is CEO rubber stamp smiling face on a dictatorship.
Nothing's gonna change or is he gonna go and push reform you know I don't know -- aren't going to be a pragmatist on this stuff.
And they're judged by action so he's -- take office in August if he does some of the things that he's talked about that he campaigned on.
Ed that he got in trouble for during the election -- it could be it could mean to break it could be.
An opportunity to maybe move this in another direction but we're not -- not we you know we have to judge by exactly did.
What what what wasn't that he.
Got in trouble.
And who really get in trouble with the people Laura nor the bullets and now know the government so you know he -- -- government he's an old pro served a lot of positions in government.
But during the campaign which was a vigorous campaign.
The sort of leading arch conservative.
Candidate the guy who was currently -- of the nuclear negotiations.
And he said listen this you know what this is -- going anywhere we need to change our position we can't expect.
Everything you give nothing in return he also said that the folks under house arrest who were arrested in 2009.
During that disputed election should be released and he criticized the government's morality for a police that go and sort of -- people on the -- what you said all that.
The guardians council which had approved his candidacy there were there were published report -- might revoke.
There approval and no longer allow him to run and in the supreme leader came out and made you know -- -- sort of -- said call -- -- You know he's pushing the envelope and we're gonna just have to see where that goes.
See that's the best the bottom line here again -- you you alluded to it but.
What I understand and is that the candidates all eight of them had to be approved -- blessed by the ball wasn't so.
There's still it's a theocracy east they're still run and Poland -- chords for the -- I guess is he a puppet or is.
Will he have any real strength.
-- -- I agree with you there they have as guardians council -- that's the candidates.
You know it it -- even allow -- Rafsanjani the former president to run for president again which I think was rather eye opening.
But Tom but but but.
But this was a different election it was a total shocker but no one in Iran and no one outside of Iran predicted what was gonna happen which was the reformist turned out in droves.
Folks thought they were gonna stay home and boycott the election but -- turned out like nobody's business and so this guy.
Who people thought might be might do okay.
Won the election outright without a runoff so if -- the us supreme leader you're sitting in Tehran you just got sent a big fat message.
From the 70% turnout they got this guy elected so I think.
Yes that he's not you know the supreme -- more powerful than the president there are different factions.
Conservative factions that are gonna attack this new guard.
But there was a resounding a message on Election Day and and that was things got to change so.
I think that's what we're gonna say in the next you know four months five months.
Where whether he can navigate between those two -- It's -- we've always talked about the people and the people that are -- -- -- -- -- make up the country of Iran that there -- they don't like what's going on they missed the old country a lot of were still around old enough through -- young enough to remember.
What -- was prior to the theocracy.
We've been imposing sanctions we've been asking the world -- imposed sanctions.
I don't know if they're working what it seems like it never really do work.
Is that what drove the people to say let's get a moderate in here.
I think it's a couple things I think the economy's in tough shape that's partly because -- on a daily -- mismanagement of the economy and it's partly because of sanctions but it wasn't just about the economy.
You know I reference them morality police.
So there are young people don't like being hassled by the government I think there's also a sense that Iran -- are tired of -- international isolation.
So I think a lot of things came together.
And built up in terms of resentment and we saw that expressed all on Election Day.
All right but you used the term moderate I've heard a lot of people report the fact -- guys -- moderate.
What does moderate mean on our scale.
Yep yep yup so I would say you know he's.
He's within the establishment but -- remember president -- Tommy was in the establishment those guys who ran -- -- -- and and law and -- had the election stolen from the war in the establishment but there are more a reformer and liberal leading to more pragmatic rather than ideological and allow the hard -- right -- in Iran is ideological it's all about the -- ideology and these guys -- more -- -- willing to cut a deal.
If they see it is in their interest in the national interest and I think that's what we need.
You know when you deal with adversaries.
It's you know whether to Soviet Union -- or charter someone else.
You want someone who's rational who's able to see their own self interest and act according to that -- -- can avoid disaster and I think that's what will be looking for.
Not a guy using you know a Canadian prime minister -- a guy who recognizes Iran's national interest and can cut a deal.
With that -- said not a Canadian prime minister doctor Jim Walsh great great always have you on the program thank you so much.
Love being here thanks.
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