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Cocaine of -- Internet poker briefly thrived in America but on the government shut down the big gambling sites.
Go to them from the United States now -- you see this notice from the Department of Homeland Security.
I thought they were supposed to protect me from terrorists not poker player.
Europe is more free then America on this here's that same company's European site which Americans are not allowed to use.
And that's a shame says Michelle -- and of the Competitive Enterprise Institute.
She says what Americans have some fun let I know that American businesses make the money.
But no don't says John -- of the University of Illinois he's testified before congress on what.
Gambling especially Internet gambling must be banned.
Well I think that we're not talking fun and games here -- not talking a libertarian issues we're talking about a serious economic issue here we're not talking about fun -- games.
Shouldn't people be free to.
It is a libertarian issue I mean.
I like to play card games everybody likes to play games but -- we're really talking about and potential.
National security issue.
And that's what came out in seven years of congressional hearings we publish that the US international -- -- when report.
These it's it's not a funny games issue.
A national security issue I think it's it's just power mad politicians who want to control people.
How is -- national security at risk for.
It's an economic.
National security issue.
That widespread Internet gambling would do exactly what that commodities futures modernization act did when it eliminated all of the anti gambling provisions.
Four Wall Street.
It caused the debacle that we had four years ago.
Widespread Internet gambling would destabilize financial systems.
Economic systems it would created huge speculative bubble it would look great for awhile and then it went all collapse.
Michelle this argument seems thin -- may but his side is winning.
Well see I actually agree with professor cans on one thing this isn't a fun and games issue.
-- talking about is -- Should people be able to play gamma Haitian -- -- -- -- -- play poker online is it dangerous we're talking about is an individual's right to exercise his or her own judgment.
Use their own money to decide what they want to do it that.
It should be legal because it's an issue of freedom adults to earn money should have the right to spend it however they -- so long as they're not harming another person.
What about the argument that this is like crack cocaine the -- -- it came into kids will get addicted.
People think gambling since the dawn of time in America developing -- since pre colonial times and yet if you look at the rates of pathological gambling in this country.
It's less than 1% and that includes children who -- So even if we had Internet gambling I don't see it that the rates of pathological gambling would increase that much to cause the crisis -- the professor's talking.
The public service announcements do you paid for by the government often do try to convey what John is worried about.
I try to persuade him.
And Delorean time.
It's very tiny diner.
Just -- yeah.
-- If you -- kids gamble they're playing with more than.
There's three times more likely.
Four times more likely to smoke.
Twice as likely to use of an illegal drugs.
Give me a break shop there because it they gamble they'll use alcohol and illegal drugs it just -- the kind of people who gamble probably already.
Have are more adventuresome.
To some extent I would agree with you on that.
In fact about the way to think about this is to compare addictive gambling which is recognized by the American Psychiatric Association as the first addictive behavior.
Medical professions very concerned about this and it shows in the studies show that when you have gambling facilities electronic gambling in particular.
Which is what the national gambling impact study commission calls the crack cocaine in creating new addicted gamblers.
And then when you put this on the Internet it's going to be -- every living room.
At every work desk at every school desk and on every cell phone Michelle you say this is entertainment just like Kara.
-- -- -- -- -- There -- benefits way beyond just the entertainment factor of gambling especially for talking about poker.
It got helps you learn statistical analysis it feels that conflict resolution it teaches patience.
I think some kids especially for talking about playing poker at their families are not necessarily casinos.
Could benefit greatly by playing games like poker that encourage focus and strategic thinking -- long term -- John what about that.
We're really talking about the battle for the future we're talking about economic security.
Economic stability and expectations this -- supported by the national association of attorney generals who supported by the national gambling impact study commission.
Unlawful Internet gambling enforcement act passed the congress went over 80% in the house how can I if I get it -- -- politicians.
Don't want us senator and ask of these arguments and they get to use force thank you John and Michelle later in the show us.
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