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All right your records or their lives -- -- -- date.
To -- security experts tell -- this week had they not done all that snooping.
You seal these guys on the trading -- -- near stock exchange well it wouldn't be trading they'd be dead.
Blown up by terrorists because we tell the monitor those terrorists.
To former NYSE boss Dick Grasso on whether he buys that.
Joins us right now just when you make of that.
It feels like to be with you I think the the authorities are absolutely spot on -- You know the New York Stock Exchange is this simple.
Of America's economic excellence.
And those who want to bring the country down look upon the stock exchange.
As a proxy.
Tour and they you know in essence the assault and perhaps the extinguishment of our way of life.
-- I know that I know it's an important -- what I'm saying is they're saying that if they didn't have this surveillance program.
This that they very well could it -- a terrorist attack.
On the exchange and a lot of people be would be dead do you believe that.
Now I do -- and I'll tell you why it out twice before work.
The first World Trade Center bombing the stock exchange was subjected to acts of terror.
In 1979 the F Palin.
Blew up play a small explosive.
On a Sunday evening in front of our butchery -- entrance.
And then in 1989 activist group actually got onto the trading floor penetrating our security and that was before the 93 bombing.
The -- stock exchange represents.
Aplomb do you work city represents aplomb to those who say.
Our way of life -- I -- eyesight but the federal authorities here and I and I give them.
Great credit for having not only not only the feds but the stock exchange itself has had to Wear thick head of security who came.
From -- Secret Service Bryant -- let nine noted he works hand in glove.
With the federal authorities to keep.
Those wonderful people on the trading -- safe.
All right well hears you and I might respectfully.
And collegial we disagree because you cannot tell me this surveillance program in and of itself.
Compiling the records of a 115.
Somehow lead to stopping an attack.
On the New York -- and now now there might have been a combination of other efforts that -- zeroed in on this and and and led to to -- attaching to perpetrators of this more or -- -- but I think now they're trying to justify something after the fact by saying.
Something very horrible could have happened if we didn't do this.
-- your skepticism is healthy and well founded which is widely that government has a responsibility.
To basically become transparent.
As they aren't what -- they don't and they are not transfer wealth they've got they've got to step up because they you know they -- losing the confidence of the American people.
Would someone like you why no would always opt.
Poor poor safety over.
They -- anything else particularly when lives are at stake.
When someone like -- saying you know I don't trust the government the government has a responsibility.
To come clean.
Well but it doesn't have what worries me then it under the guise of keeping us safe which is always -- -- was your goal when you were at the exchange.
You could sell a lot of stuff and a lot of nonsense and from fear of losing our lives will give up a lot.
But freedom in our lives tonight what is the balance to Dick grass.
Well the balance in the litmus test I think we have we always got they have there's you know are we compromising.
They defeat the tenets that made.
Our country great and different and superiors and I think we are -- I think we are ideally are probably still wait you know because I know -- there.
I was there eleven years should go OK 3000 people.
Died that day in September because we weren't you know doing -- things that need to be done.
You know we we we followed bin Laden in the latter part of the ninety's we had a shot at them we didn't take it.
Who knows whether have we taken that shot.
9/11 would have never occurred so you know I always err on the side of human life here -- not know that.
Did you not hear me what I did and I respect that anyone saying -- -- that is saying that to save those lives as we have to.
Up the surveillance -- programs and seem more the type of Verizon things that we're seeing now.
To make sure that doesn't happen even though that same program was in place at the time it is Boston attacks and did did -- to stop them.
I am saying to be careful what you wish more because it under under the guise of -- -- you alive.
You're surrendering everything act.
No no disagreement.
In this sense -- that.
That government and it has not to this point the government has got to explain to the American people.
What the methodology and a what what the protections are so that we don't compromise.
Rights of the Americans.
And in turn.
Say that this is what we must do to -- if we -- one right.
It's worth doing.
Then all right aggressive could -- -- -- don't like to do with it our but it they are both.
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