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We start with a brand new -- shocker today reports out of the disgraced agencies about to pay out seventy million dollars in bonuses to its employees.
I know it's scandalous just piling on to the outrageous stories that we've been reporting one after another.
You're not -- -- congressman John Mica who's on the oversight committee.
For government reform as well welcome back to the show congressmen.
Several good to be within bad day here this -- yeah.
Now this news -- IRS.
It's seventy million dollars.
It shocking IRS notified the employee union on March 25 that it intended to reclaim.
75 million dollars that have been set aside for bonuses.
Then all of a sudden there's a renegotiation -- some point now there.
Giving seventy million dollars do you feel good about having saved five million.
Well first of all.
We're gonna try to do everything they tend to keep them from going through both.
The office of management budget had.
Directed the agencies not to get these bonuses particularly.
When we're we're allowing people when -- -- in the financial situation that we're in an and you have an agency that spun out of control whether it's targeting.
Political groups last we we did a hearing on.
Spending outrageous sums on these conventions speakers.
For gifts for their employees and now they wanna -- Seventeen million dollars which is not warranted or really required under.
Under there let.
-- Wednesday -- about a little bit is it required because the IRS says that it is under a legal obligation to comply with its collective bargaining agreement which specifies the terms by which awards are PE.
-- bargaining unit employees but at the same time.
You know Chuck Grassley says that the fact that the original agreement allows for re appropriation of such -- funding in the event of a budgetary shortfall so which is.
Are they required rights are not.
First of all we believe senator Grassley and I agree.
That the terms of the agreement that they were working under.
Allowed us to take the money back.
If there was a problem with finances if we don't have a problem with finances.
-- these folks must be on another planet.
But they have then quietly negotiating behind closed doors I think that.
To cut another deal Wear them and give them the money.
But I'm telling you this is causing a ruckus in congress down and it and the American people can't be happy.
That an agency that spun out of control now they're gonna reward folks with the bonuses.
No I'm sure people at home are asking is the reason why they should not get the bonuses because we have financial problems in this country in the sequestered because people can't.
Toward the White House or is the reason they shouldn't get the bonuses.
Because the IRS is doing a whole lot of things wrong right now.
Well right now.
We're debating just a few feet from here on the floor of the house were debating whether to -- nutritional programs for children and elderly in the country.
And here they -- get -- negotiating behind closed doors to get seventy Mahan and bonuses to an agency that has -- up or performer at very best.
So I think.
We're going to stay on this we're not gonna let it happen.
And it's good that it came to light at this point so we can that help stop it.
Conspiracy theories are saying you know that this is all part of a larger cover up that these employees were thrown under the bus and blamed for things that maybe came from higher up the food chain.
And now this is hush money Heidi feel about those kind of accusations I mean it's it's conspiracy theory but it's out there.
Well I honestly don't know we'll get to the bottom of it.
If you think it's bad this week next Wednesday we're gonna do a hearing on.
Procurement gone wild and IRS.
Contract that will shock the American people so.
This week get -- giving bonuses -- for performers and last week it was IRS spending outrageous amount pay money for conference's so the saga continues.
Unfortunately for the American tax.
It -- and and of course before that it was the targeting of conservative groups and their tax exempt status it keeps piling on.
What are the chances that we see real reform here because the American people don't want you to get distracted.
By whatever the latest spending scandal is and not get real reform that changes the way business is well -- IRS.
Well sometimes out of bad comes some good does it certainly has sparked interest interest in.
IRS and maybe some true reform I know chairman Dave Camp of the Ways and Means Committee is now.
Getting support -- are looking at a complete revamping and many other countries have gone to much simpler systems rather than adding pages and pages in the act so losses to simplify go to a fair tax code attacks that doesn't require.
Employees we currently have and then adding ten to 151000.
More for obamacare enforcers.
It's crazy congressman that you are coming on.
Good to be with you thank you.
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