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For more on the president's defense of NSA's surveillance programs his appearance of the G-8 summit.
And more I'm joined by Andrea attend -- cohost of the five.
On the Fox News Channel Fox -- political analyst Juan Williams.
Great to have you all with us -- -- you -- let's start with the and -- -- my gosh.
We have heard for better than a week I'm just criticism man just lashing judgments on the say.
And and I haven't heard the president really stand up here and defend his agency and the head of the USA -- so today.
And congress Republicans and Democrats alike.
-- being very care.
Well I think a lot of Republicans in congress and Democrats as -- also they weren't appropriately briefed on this program President Obama.
Has really failed to argue his case to the American people I was a little shocked that he went on Charlie Rhodes.
He called for a national conversation.
And then he jets off to Ireland it's not conversation it's basically a monologue that he's having.
But I think you're you're closer to the war.
Yeah I think he knows that this is a real problem Lou I think it hits to the crux of his base because they're very upset with him for being hypocritical.
-- on this issue on the surveillance issue.
And he tries to offer this -- a court's.
Defense today saying that this court -- independent although 34000.
Requests and only eleven were denied it seems like a rubber stamp.
And it seems like it's a bit -- -- control.
When they want I just couldn't disagree more I think that women who says congress hasn't been briefed I think congress has been totally briefed.
And also I think this programs actually essential I don't want to get blown up.
And if you want to have this debate they should have headed back when they passed the Patriot Act I think there are a lot of suckers in this game -- and people who signed a blank check.
In the immediate aftermath of -- -- -- and -- now why didn't realize all that was involved but let me just tell you something.
This is something that we have known about for years even go back to 2006.
The revelation so called revelation which I think is a revelation without heart.
Is basically an extension.
For the -- the court of their authority to continue doing what they've been doing for some time now.
The idea that there are looking for patterns among data I just don't see this as a surprise at all and you know what I'd be surprised if they weren't there when that little.
But new patterns among whom they're not surveilling mosques there that they're taking in all America -- how they're taking it that's up for debate they're taking in all this information.
I'm OK with surveillance actually was OK with the Patriot Act moderate levels and in ordinary times Lou I would say this is fine if there's any use it successfully.
But look at Boston look at Times Square I'll look at issue like -- look at the plumber that's not gonna relax I want my foot.
First of all that's not beer you know and today what we heard from the intelligence people if there's they're fifty or more instances and they're so we hosted just go out trust our government.
We believe everything OK well then don't trust the government but think about it for a second because we know about the Christmas bomb.
We know what happened there.
We know about instances where and backed al-Qaeda -- programs have been thwarted.
By intelligence program it was not intelligence want it was citizens on the street it was a man running a falafel stand in Times Square and it says.
He's about to blow up the street it was a woman on a plane said -- -- -- on fire it -- outcome of -- sweeping NSA all right all right if.
This is we're just what you describe -- loan hawks go out and do things what I'm saying is there's a systematic program in place to -- and we have congressional oversight.
Mike Rogers a good Republican head of the house intelligence that he has been -- he opened reaping the other -- and I think it Democrat senate intelligence at the same thing.
A lot of these guys are not covering -- -- -- because they're embarrassed but they even.
Yes this question.
If you watch these folks testifying from the various agencies.
The -- Law enforcement agencies are anti terrorism agencies intelligence agencies.
You know they're senator many of them in uniform.
-- and congress.
And I obstruct progress -- returned my -- here.
They have a 10% approval ratings are attacking the agencies that are working full time to protect us meanwhile.
They're talking about trying to dissect and take up.
I mean just literally -- that time out of the the the lions and careers of these officers.
Who were leaving these agencies rather than focusing on how to.
Counteract the Chinese stop the cyber attacks against -- I mean this is one of the most carefully played I think.
Espionage acts in our country's history and -- blew away a two day summit with president -- Presidency -- President Obama in California.
Where there's no discussion of the cyber attacks from the Chinese he is odd to me it is obvious that he is working.
Either for or at least been officially for.
The Chinese Government there doesn't seem to be a question.
It's too much of a coincidence that days after the short -- summit this information is leaked in the midst of China being in the cross hairs for hacking into our most secret.
-- weapons systems.
And look he's in China very conveniently saying at the United States -- China and then we hear about the -- so I do agree with your assessment there.
Lou but -- I am glad congress is taking this on -- but it doesn't seem like.
This administration has been as transparent with congress as they say they've been a secret -- court is not exactly full transparency and now he says there's an oversight board.
It doesn't it put my mind disease at all.
One you get the last word in the space.
I hope it's not -- -- look at I think every night and you all want America protected and you don't -- -- -- It's -- faceoff yes it's a very I don't want to -- -- -- I'm under par.
Well -- -- faceoff but let me just say we're all Americans we want the country -- I just don't like the way they're playing politics with this I think a lot of people a place that -- before.
A lot of these politicians.
Right now -- playing politics they are worried about the reaction from the American public especially -- young people who seem to think.
It headstone is a hero martyr what kind of martyr doesn't stand there and pay the price and they -- right I'm gonna tell you what I stand for who I am and my principles he goes running off the China and playing footsie with the Chinese.
As you -- -- that makes me very suspicious.
Right on thank you very much Andrew thank you regulators -- -- for.
-- yeah yeah -- -- good.
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