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The president still hasn't given a clear unequivocal defense of the NSA and its surveillance programs.
For that matter neither has congress our first guest tonight says general Alexander.
Provided the first true meaningful defense of the agency.
Joining us now is former federal prosecutor under MacArthur who led the successful.
Terrorism prosecution of the 1993 World Trade Center bombers and also the author of the best sellers program Jihad and spring fever.
Good to have you with seems to be -- General Alexander.
Was forthright it's seen he made a compelling case I even see instantly in that committee that hearing room.
The committee was growing up a level I didn't hear that we heard what congressman ships start giving.
The general right very valuable.
Advice I'm sure.
But it was seemed a little more mature and tall.
And it's -- yeah I think you've got a real adult who.
Was in complete command of the facts and I think made the most compelling defense of this program now I don't think it'll be enough because there's nothing like the bully pulpit and its effectiveness.
Is as general Alexander is.
He's not the president these programs really need to -- the defense of the Oval Office and specifically.
The president's defense of his administration this agency are her rose to this level.
Thought it was pretty transparent the prison program are.
What does he need to say to be effective in the defense.
Of NSA and his -- administration -- anything but transparent because I think after five years.
With the capacity of this administration transparent as it's -- the butt of the joke than anything that will be effective in in the discourse.
He needs to explain.
Much like general Alexander did.
We need these programs.
And what the structural civil liberties protections are in them because the runaway freight train here.
People who -- opposed to the programs and saw this issue as a way to re litigate everything they lost when the Patriot Act was re authorize -- and and when the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act was overhauled.
Have stolen the narrative here and basically have people thinking that the intelligence community is actively spying on American.
I think today if -- -- and sensing some some higher level of maturity on the part of the committee.
Perhaps that's about -- -- They of course always have the reinforcing value of the national media the given given the politics of the matter.
But so hopefully we'll see more attention paid to the Chinese cyber attacks on this country and then on trying to.
Take up the time of those who -- leading the effort.
To protect the country -- and its infrastructure.
Let let me -- to the summit the G-8 summit in Belfast.
The president walked away.
It's slapped around by Vladimir Putin -- it was a and a dismal performance for the United States if it.
How could it be anything but though if you think about it you you you have.
Ideological progressives who think that the way to conduct American foreign policy.
Is not certain to be guided by the competence of our own vital interest but to be part of the world community in which we basically recruit.
Countries that are hostile to the United States very much including Russia.
Not only into the decision making process but actually give them a veto over over the actions that we we wish to take.
And this is the structure that we find ourselves and largely because of people like this is where we're living in Barack Obama's world and this is the result of.
And we who will be doing so for some time and in the matter of days we'll be taking -- direct talks the United States well with the Taliban.
On -- resolution in Afghanistan.
I mean this turns.
Our history our.
Our foreign policy for decades on its head and -- work.
If it leads to where common sense take -- which is that it's a war has a winner and a loser.
And if you don't stay in it to win it you lose.
And I think a lot of what has gone on from the president's speech about how he's basically declaring that the war is over without having to do the hard work to -- it in a positive way.
To what we're seeing now.
Is they're trying to dress this up.
Into something other than a humiliating defeat for the United States and something that's very much but I contradictory to what our interest -- going forward.
-- -- -- Always good to have you thank you thank.
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