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It is being called a modern day plantation system federal authorities have now seized 14711.
Stores in new York and Virginia.
At least nine franchise owners are facing serious charges of -- -- staff.
And the use of faulty Social Security numbers and -- the largest criminal immigrant employment investigations ever.
With me now former federal prosecutor Doug burns welcome back to the show thank you.
This incredible story -- a number of reasons.
One is the scope.
You're just so many stores that are Bob tell me exactly what what was going -- Not yeah I've been in a couple of these cases on both sides of court as a prosecutor and as a defense there and in one of them with the same -- Basically the scheme it sounds very top -- really boiled down to it down in essence they're running seven elevenths right they hire illegal aliens.
They then use legitimate Social Security numbers of other people right.
And they use a Social Security number that's real associate -- a particular employee.
Now it's a franchise so the main company is processing the payroll and so they issue the paycheck for the real -- -- they intercepted the franchise owner.
It's 500 -- and then pay the worker to.
I'm Brad sham and a fraction -- can get rest is they're not illegal worker and and they showed exactly home.
One today one of the franchise owners that was involved -- that he's living very opulent -- we we have no idea what conditions these people are living and I understand.
The case came to light because.
Want in two different cases the workers went to police and got fed.
You know -- I'm I'm working I'm not receiving any of the wage and -- had to take a lot because that person was an illegal immigrants -- that would be willing to go forward.
We just made a great point which is that so many times one of the essence is of a scheme like this is for closing somebody from stepping forward and complaining because they're on immigration to -- -- right.
This is -- things that are also amazing to me about this case.
There was no no one at 7-Eleven corporate headquarters caucus in the paychecks that there were employees.
That we're using this seems Social Security numbers are right they care law they noticed they were paying too.
You know multiple people under the same number there was no catch and.
You can you can argue that both ways and I well the first way is you know your way which is it's ridiculous how did they not catch it etc.
and they should have some and I.
Algorithm a computer program to catch it now but the reverse is in all of society we have very complicated bureaucracies whether it's in government corporations.
Thousand -- us -- is just I don't care about Matthews but are now saying.
Not just -- fired -- -- tell but I'm just telling you why it happened.
It this -- my thought about this I always have this question when we are talking about illegal immigrants being paid legal wages yes money was paid into Social Security.
For these people.
When -- now.
Well we don't know what was or wasn't -- -- now you're -- it -- actual payroll right.
Not a money went to Social Security yes that isn't going into someone's account for future use because that person.
It didn't work there they won't allow actually multiple sessions did that person get credit -- and isn't something that's the person was dead.
Not so they were paying money into Social Security per person who's already dead.
So the Social Security Administration doesn't say wait a second we got -- -- -- and it doesn't belong in what they didn't raise the flag out let's return is out.
It probably have some kind of residual account for deceased -- and I was in deeds he's he's he's -- -- out the side you know I don't -- but I thought I wanna know what has ample.
No I prosecuted cases.
-- husband died right and she receives the checks and continues casting right the -- -- now and back is that the pay back restitution.
But you found.
Yeah I did -- but in the course of my travels in those cases I also learned that Social Security.
Sometimes has -- at the Kansas department and when put into some of the reasons and then what happened and that they use it as a -- repression but.
Do you -- an even better question at what about where they used identity theft rate and they took the legitimate.
Joseph blows security number now Joseph blow of the legitimate person has money on account -- Social Security that was your point and Obama yeah and the point -- which we.
-- like -- yard run in the show they -- -- that I got it yet so well but it just what happened -- money most confusing them think Susan.
So what can -- about money when it goes into the account of the person who wasn't actually be employees with Cornell this -- -- It's a -- that -- what in that case where you're saying it's being paid into someone's account whose identity was stolen.
Now we -- Critically the real person right yeah has that money in their name but it's not their money it's going to be sorted out so in other words let's say they steal my sister got a -- And then they pay an illegal alien yeah and they deduct money against my Social Security number and now it's.
I'm gonna show you a sheet to garrison.
Who's number that's affiliated with -- and they're gonna say you have this money.
In social security and they're supposed to say.
Why is that I never worked like that area that in reserve means Social Security keeps and the use of what they want this reserve -- about the question for another time.
Does take you political -- not big of a coming out we appreciate my -- up next on.