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This President Obama clearly has introduced a policy able government all the time that really has shifted our economy and I think -- society.
-- they're bringing one of the leading thinkers on economic policy.
I want to know if President Obama has changed America for years to come.
-- his eyes off the Brooks he is the present all of the American Enterprise Institute.
What do you say -- has he changed it now unfold good for a long time to come.
Well yeah hi Stewart it's -- it's it's hard to argue that things haven't haven't changed in the United States the truth of the matter is that -- -- working for a long time.
The scale up the size and scope of government and an Obama has simply taken out sort of escalated these particular trends.
Growth of government is something it's been going on for two decades and you know YouTube and in the United States for a long time and you've seen it and I know you've seen it to your great dismay.
But it's kind of a bipartisan deal at this point you can't say that it's Democrats or Republicans the truth of the matter is that -- -- -- -- of government in dollars per capita has increased more under Republican administrations.
-- under democratic administrations over the past two decades so I would call this kind of a bipartisan conspiracy to make us into a European style social democracy.
Well the -- talking implies that it's gonna take years and years and years to on wine and what both parties have brought us to.
Yeah that's right no that's absolutely writing into the biggest problem is -- we have a tendency to.
Think that the Republican Party is -- free enterprise party always and everywhere you know the stuff -- that you and I just love you know the idea of the entrepreneur dot.
The fearless free enterprise advocate mistress striking out on his own -- the truth of the matter is that we have two parties one that's really content with the growing welfare state and one that.
Has a great claim of administering the welfare state about 5% more efficiently.
-- any other party and we're going to have to house Republicans and Democrats come together to say what are our core values here.
What does this country gonna look like an -- if you want to know what the country's gonna look like just look across the pond.
To what's going on in Europe where they're saying boy if only we can get down to 11% unemployment.
-- -- -- if you're Spaniard that would be great.
And -- but that can you win a general election in United States of America if you say.
I -- cut back on all these government giveaways -- the reform these programs.
-- because you will be demagogue to death that you are posting all people you'll hosting this sick -- hosting the -- I -- you can do it off of.
It's a hard thing to do and that's actually why we need visionary leadership living -- an example of the kind arguments that we need to make.
You know what I look at Spain -- -- I lived in Spain for a long time and it's a system that I know pretty well.
The difference between now in twenty years ago is that today there's three or four times more homelessness and there wasn't span why.
The reason is because of the insult -- of the insolvency of the economy because there entitlement spending.
That's what led to -- you know the truth is we should be anti austerity enemies of austerity because it hurts poor people.
Why do we need to get entitlement spending under control because if we don't do that we will have economic insolvency leading to austerity in austerity will make the safety net for the truly indigent unaffordable.
It will hurt the poor.
Those are the arguments that are true and that we have to make for strong moral reasons and a visionary leader should be able to do that all right give me the -- Give me a name of a visionary leader who you see emerging right now -- have a nine.
Now what we -- yeah -- right.
That's the problem the problem is you don't -- -- we could.
We throw out people who have a lot of capability to talk in these operational terms Marco Rubio is about a Paul Ryan is good at a Chris Christie is -- about it.
but what we really need are a bench of fifty.
Fifty people and -- our aspiration all great leaders who can talk of these strong moral terms.
At the state level and what we need to start doing is assembling a list of people who can be the next generation of leaders as opposed to -- to say look we're three and a half years out from the next election.
Let's assemble the list of five people and pick the winner from among those five that's the who's next in line kind of philosophy that's led to a lot of -- I've got to say good -- to you -- -- I won nine to that list and that will be doctor Ben costs and just think about it often to think about it.
Very interesting so there is coming out some interesting stuff reasons like.
Thanks very much -- -- Brooks Cummins is again please.
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