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You both very much and that the congress and who is try to -- The government doesn't go overboard like this again mr.
Republican just at a mosque hasn't build attain -- bureaucratic bold.
Congressman explain what did some live bird T yep still is about.
Thanks -- for having me on again always apply it to build it's a bill that I'm working on with represented John Conyers he's the ranking Democrat on the house Senate Judiciary Committee.
And we put together bipartisan bill we have a lot of co sponsors and what we're trying to do is simply narrow the scope of the Patriot Act.
So that it's only targeting the people we want to target those who are foreign agents those who are trying to harm us.
How would you know.
You know by now targeting innocent America but not narrow at target you might not know that -- the innocent or a -- apparently innocent person is the culprit.
-- right now under the way the Patriot Act is being interpreted.
They're treating all Americans -- suspects -- sweeping up all of this information and that's why we -- hear about these phone records being collected.
That's being done under the Patriot Act because that's being treated as relevant information even though all of those people.
The most of the people the vast majority are innocent people.
And have have no ties to terrorism.
You know congressman you're closer this and although the minutes you know -- play an expert on TV and read a prompter so I -- I qualified.
You can swing the pendulum the other way right served by that I mean by trying to hold back on a sweet being spine of every one.
You end up missing a lot of folks by -- by bringing it back to just the folks you think our potential culprits -- could but he said.
Well we've got a constitution we have to follow we have a Fourth Amendment.
And that we have to follow -- you could also eliminate all crimes you can eliminate all terrorism within the United States by having cameras everywhere.
Including an average homes they could watch my family all day and -- everyone's family all day.
What do you think you're getting the currently but -- I had Joseph Lieberman on the -- senator from Connecticut who was with me last night and he was saying you know.
I can't give you specifics -- -- but I can tell you this very NSA program has led to stopping.
Now he committed this visits are you never know -- that you explosive -- this and I was.
But a debt that now you rein it -- and I'm kind of would you want aside think you can go overboard.
Then god knows what what's going to come our way you say what.
-- you can't use anecdote to justify violations of the constitution the the reason the founders put in place.
It's to protect our rights and and sure there's a balance between security and liberty and it's it's presented in the constitution and in the Fourth Amendment and that's what we want to protect.
And it's important to note.
That a lot of members of congress aren't even given the access to the laws.
Because these the court opinions the secret -- a court opinions are where the laws are being interpreted so we don't know.
And Lester on the intelligence committee we don't know how the laws actually being -- Florida the Syrian.
What you part of that Powell what.
Had to -- folks describe what went on next time I thought they took all you guys are mean dignity that -- remind.
It hasn't changed my mind if anything it's in bits of old inmate we have classified briefings that were not given the information we need.
There are documents such as court opinions that we -- we would want access to and actually the good the bill that I'm working on with the would provide all members of congress -- access to the secret court opinions it's it's critical that we have that that we can represent our constituents.
Congressman -- thank you very much good seeing you again.
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