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It was called money are Walid Ferris Fox News Beattie is expert -- -- jobs there president of American Islamic forum for democracy gentlemen.
Thanks to both of you for joining us the -- start with you.
Why now why is the president doing this now what do you think was very sudden smoking -- -- what was the final straw.
Was with Melissa as little wars they eventually come to an end and they're realizing recently that would have to sit at a loss.
There has been a significant devastation to the rebels the numbers killed have been increasing exponentially.
And there's signs are that the gonna -- -- -- look -- which we've said for years since the beginning of this revolution is where the revolution will begin in hands.
And is a major massacre and play there.
There's even word that that the king of Saudi Arabia.
And more importantly the Kingdom of Jordan had given the Americans.
And our country ultimatum that either you help the rebels are you get out -- won't have influence in the future Syria so that cards had been pushed on the ground.
Iranians have put all the state -- we're starting to realize the security matrix that's an area that's been obvious -- -- to look for some time.
-- do you agree with in -- so do we really have.
I -- -- -- have the interest to get involved at this point are we getting involved on the right side is there -- side that we should align ourselves with at all.
Initially be -- bomb demonstration with I'm very excited to do.
More wars or.
More interventions -- -- because you begin by army and then their protests which are arming.
And -- -- -- -- we actions by the regime Hezbollah and Iran and you find yourself involved in a conflict while.
The president wants to withdrawal -- NATO from Afghanistan but right.
We have counted on the Russians to put pressure on asset.
And the -- -- -- -- -- has -- cross is not just on the ground and -- on the it's the fact that the Russians I'm not putting pressure on Assad to stop.
So that they Assad regime has been pushing and pushing on the ground I think this move by the president by demonstration is to put back a sort of a balance of power.
Between the rebels.
And -- regime so that both of them would go to Geneva and begin negotiations.
City do you agree with me this our best interest is we're trying to I -- -- -- out what we're trying to stop the war from and Cuomo also remembered doing nothing is a policy and the current policies doing nothing but empowering the Iranians the biggest threat in the Middle East.
Hizbul law -- off the water and -- Hamas and the southern Syria because they're trying for an ultimate solution in southern Syrian all of Syria.
They put all of their eggs and that crossroads and if they lose Syria.
To be the Sunnis or to liberty or to the free forces of the free Syria army.
They will have a significant blow to the influence of the west in the region so they're playing already there is -- -- The rebels diamond if you look at who is backing the rebels as the Muslim -- brotherhood I mean it is not it's okay that's not people who are friends I did there.
I mean I understand -- you're saying about how.
I you know Iran is backing Syria and why we shouldn't be on that side but that's not a compelling enough reason to be on the side of the rebels is -- Well I think -- it is because the old calculus for the last fifty years that the Middle East is torn between two bad choices.
Is falling apart the egyptians -- on the way to ousting the Muslim Brotherhood and our next revolution the Turks have shown that there revolting against the -- so with the right influence with our influence for liberty there can be a third choice in the Middle East.
But left to its own devices the strong horse right now is the worst choice so we can at least try to tilted.
Towards those that are at least closer to us then that then the evil has -- has said and most importantly Iran.
-- do you I mean do you agree with that do you think that we have some interest in being on the side of the rebels because.
The vast majority of Americans 68% of which in the most recent poll that we've seen out.
See we have no business getting involved in this right now it is it is more than double those on the side of getting involved.
Because most Americans.
Viewers and those who I want it anyway that's our ball it's about triple what it and that the number of people want us not get involved at all sorry go ahead continue I just want a crack.
Ethnicity because most Americans when they watch the videotapes coming from Syria they see on most -- -- -- caught up reality on the ground is different.
They are islamists they are jihadist and the opposition but there are the second -- and we -- we need not to make the same mistake we make -- Libya.
Or by -- -- supporting the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and Tunisia so now.
If they administration understand this equation and start the supporting.
That secular offices of the FSA on the one hand and signal to Qatar and the gulf not the Fonda -- as this may be the third choice that.
Does that -- was that was spoken about but yeah this week but it's -- initiation I don't know we gonna wait and see.
-- before I ask you better -- -- second -- before we do that let me ask you really quickly about the price of all this because -- show is called money after all that is why we're talking about it because it's ultimately going to be taxpayer dollars.
That are on their way to this battle.
Estimates are that a no fly zone based in Jordan alone.
Could cost in the neighborhood at spot fifty million dollars -- today.
Where does it go well there how much as I mean that's just that that's just one little item that's the tip of the iceberg.
Well remember the costs of this would be wage we're putting in hundreds of millions into humanitarian aid.
And the longer we let this -- want the rebels are not gonna give up their money either see themselves in the tens of millions disappear.
Or they're gonna CS -- defeated so the humanitarian aid by itself we could limit.
In in the next year and make it less by helping the rebels ultimately win and allow Syrians to come back into the decrease the costs in Jordan and Turkey not to mention if you look at Libya for example it was -- a little over well one and a half to two billion in six months so.
That cost I think pails in comparison to the regional loss and the cost to Israel and other allies in the region if Iran feels they can do what it wants and threaten the entire region into a war that's spilling over into Lebanon and elsewhere road and end up paying at some point Melissa.
It is speaking of Iran it is election date.
-- -- what do you make of that is there any change on the way is there any chance it's a free and fair election I mean what's significant should Americans here at home watching.
Make of seeing Iranians go to the poll as for watching them right there.
Liberal democratic elections and all we know -- but at the same time that the next president could be a more moderate element that's very possible at the end of the day if there is no real democratic revolution in Iran.
And the Ayatollah regime would go down it's going to be a series of movies as we've seen in the nineties we had the -- Leader in Iran elected missed a -- to me it did not change.
There we have controlled in Iran is for the president on the Iran -- rules regardless so we need to actually support the Iranian people the green movement the democratic -- Of Iran that should be US policy.
Let me get your thoughts on the selection real quick before we -- out.
And and I would say that the moderates are really off the ballot the moderates that are they are sham that the moderate from the ninety's was a sham because the supreme leader really was still there.
So at the end of the -- I think it's better to have a leader who really says what he feels rather than.
Conceals -- gets us to the tabling gets us falsely and that's -- ties into really what the real global.
-- -- game is for the Iranians zinni just a -- Farris thank you.
Both -- you for your time we appreciate it great insight thanks.
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