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Joining us now to discuss the political impact of these scandals.
Now engulfed the administration.
Congressman Ted -- on the Judiciary Committee as well as the foreign affairs committee also an executive member.
Of the Immigration Reform Caucus former senator Scott Brown now -- Fox News contributor.
Gentlemen great to have you with -- congressman let me turn first to your reaction to.
What does straightforward contradiction on the part of two senators mark.
Udall and Ron Wyden.
Out of the of the head.
Of the national they have NSA.
Well that's not convincing to me that the NSA appropriately used even the Patriot Act.
With their broader approach.
Of taking millions of phone records trying to track down -- terrorist -- to.
I think is overreaching and it doesn't even follow the Patriot Act as it is.
And now we have this issue of mega data where we can they can track and take.
Down a person's.
Location when the phone would use.
I do not think that that is constitution I don't think they can do that under even the Patriot Act.
And I have even filed legislation about three months ago to prohibit that analysts say search warrant.
It's -- so I think it's over broad overreaching not convinced.
That the NSA follow current law he.
I and ends Scott Brown.
Is -- looking -- the Washington Post in the guardian with a blockbuster stories that began.
In the midst of a and following a two day summit between president Cheney and President Obama that.
But effectively obliterated that summit remember having -- at least as far as the media is concerned.
Now both the guardian in the post -- walking those stories back their allegations are being.
Diminish to the point that it's starting to look like.
Well some -- here.
On the part of these -- news organizations may have resulted in now fouling up the story when it back.
-- listen -- need to get your facts straight whenever your reporting a story obviously you know that you you've been doing it for years.
The bottom line getting back to what the congressman was talking about the patriot Patriot Act was meant to obviously addressed terrorists the information that.
The -- the computers that we found from terrorists and going -- -- terrorism wasn't meant to be this -- I did not support.
This broad sweeping.
Attempt to get bored ordinary citizens information and use it for some other reason.
This from real problems and when it comes to what does I know congress senator Wyden and Udall.
Good guys straight shooters didn't agree with him on everything but they -- like it is it very easy for general Alexander.
And anyone else to go down -- -- get those secret briefings and find out exactly.
How these these records are being used and what if any.
-- attempts to hurt us were worth awarded.
And we don't have that information and there's a lot of unanswered questions here -- we got to get the facts straight.
The American people deserve better they deserve to know what their federal government is doing and what tools the using.
Either monitor their safety or.
Does it to what degree does it.
Well does it in the back disturb you ball.
That there is a young man -- in nine years old apparently still in Hong Kong making allegations.
About US cyber attacks on Chinese facilities as he speaks -- the Chinese media.
Basically accuse the -- the federal government all of all sorts of civil rights horrors which by the way to this point haven't been substantially.
In any way.
-- yet it is remarkable the coincidence.
In his relationship to China.
And it looks as though an institution and that is the US congress which -- we've looked at the most recent polls.
Has the lowest.
Regard a manageable in the by the on the part of the American people.
And yet here we are watching what looks to me I mean there's -- -- of the church commission and all of this.
-- I hear a lot of talking going on about they're going after.
The that ne'er do wells in the in the military and in the intelligence and the editor -- look I'm a little turnaround on this one congressman -- -- -- -- congressman you're.
You're straight shooter along with all those other -- you tell me where.
Where am -- wrong well.
Below and let me just jump in as a as a former ranking member of homeland I can attest firsthand the amount of cyber attacks we get from China.
-- -- criminal elements around the world to want to take our work product in and -- -- in any way shape or form they can.
With regard to this young man -- enough.
-- they should have done a better job checking his his qualifications and security clearances in the lake and who was monitoring what he was doing.
The fact that we have way too many contractors to start out as a as a one problem number one the fact it is in China.
And he's you know concerned about civil rights in people's rights are you kidding me.
I I question his motives some people coming here are some people -- trader.
I think he could have handled it better -- -- concerns about where -- -- -- going but a lot of the things that they were doing.
You get the last word here.
It's obvious that several things one.
Let's look at the federal government's overall surveillance.
Of American citizens -- concerned about that a great deal.
We have to ratchet and the federal bureaucracies that.
Are in charge of security to make sure that the Fourth Amendment constitutional rights of everybody or -- that's Congress's responsibility.
Now -- and this note.
We're still not sure about him as a person and whether or not he has actually committed crimes against the US SP -- crimes in the sense that.
Put Americans in danger who were out there working for the United States that is interest in -- -- brown has said he chose China to run to.
Rather than some other country.
So we will learn more about him.
But people like him should have never gotten in the area where they got a top secret clearance so maybe we ought to be screening the screeners a little better.
Before they ever get to that position as well.
I guess in part.
-- very wrap up here congressman Scott I mean.
It's -- we're learning a little bit about ourselves too because it seems to me the national media is ever so quick and even some members.
Of our government are very eager to jump on our intelligence.
It's intelligence community.
As we're talking about cyber attacks that was supposed to be at the top of the president's agenda -- president -- In -- -- now we're sort of we're eating our young if you will -- a society.
Out of some impulse I frankly don't quite yet understand.
But perhaps we will and then we'll sure try and today's victory.
A little little Lou I just need to say we need to give our -- -- -- our hats to our intelligence community and the folks that are doing humans were keeping us safe.
On the one hand on the other hand you need to have that check and balance and make sure that that -- there aren't some bad apples like what's happening now.
Really distorting what we're trying to do and how we're trying to do it.
Thank you very much -- brown thank you and our congressman we appreciate that humans -- -- we have.
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