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-- -- -- suspicions that Edwards Madden is a Chinese agent.
But the question about who he really is remains what can we learn about him from the interview with the guardian.
What words in his body language tell us psychologist and host of culture shock radio -- regard -- your joins me now.
Thanks so much for coming on the show everyone I know has been watching this video because it's really compelling I -- he's really well spoken.
You know the interview itself you I've watched about two times it's hard to tear yourself away from it right off the bat he came out unidentified south what does that tell you.
Well it tells me many I'll whistle blowers they don't identify themselves it really is what they do is for the good of the many it's not about them.
They all this -- about him this is about him and I see some real narcissus and here.
I am the one who has released this information and I am going to make it right.
There's something not really quite right about that and I wouldn't even call them a whistle blower at this no particular time why.
Well because -- whistle blowers are the ones who say okay there's something wrong with the system.
And we just want to make it right but it seems like he has so many knives to grind here yeah -- he says so many things about the NSA and how people just -- -- use their power and they're used to way to and they don't have any real good conflict resolution they just smash the opposition so that tells me that this is someone.
Who is somewhat not just -- narcissistic hack but we see some paranoia there too.
So we ask you pick a couple things that he said that jumped out at you let's play the first one we'll talk about on any of -- -- rusty with wiretapping the president.
Not all analysts have the ability to target everything.
But I -- in my desk certainly have the authorities to to wiretap anyone.
From did you warn your accountant to a federal judge to even the president if I had -- personally now.
Does that -- to -- cool.
-- -- Meaning you think it is -- Even if he good even if it he could do that why talk about it why talk about it in that particular interview it all comes back to him it all comes back to this.
How -- That he has to even be able to listen in on the president of the United States again whistle -- as we found them to be.
Like god Daniel Ellsberg we found these people to be.
Very humble and what it is that they're doing it's not about them.
It's a do -- -- -- lying when he said that based on his body language based on everything happening I know.
It's aghast and you don't come you're just watching the same but do you feel like -- -- -- it's very hard to look at that body language because he stays pretty rigid the whole time.
Which again tells us something about him that there's no real emotion.
And almost anything that he says he's almost like a robot.
Telling these particular stories -- -- -- are now can't tell.
-- not yet.
Not yet okay let's look at let's look at another one another thing that jumped out -- you go ahead.
I could be.
You know rendered by the CIA I can have -- people coming after me or any of there -- their third party -- this you know they want to work closely with the number of other nations.
Or you know they make a pay off the trite answers you know any any of their agents or assets.
We've we've got to CIA station just up the road and the consulate here in Hong Kong I'm sure that they're going to be very busy for the next week.
That really jumped out -- me when I was watching the little clip I was like wow see using the you know basically the entire world is organizing and -- right now.
Thinking about you really attacking UN and also sounded like science fiction but then again you know I'm not in the NSA Russell I don't know maybe they are like that well.
And -- made maybe -- -- like that but again it speaks to grandy -- city that you are so important those ideas of reference everything is about you.
But as well some paranoia there and yes of course paranoia means sometimes the reality.
Is that someone may be after you -- he put himself in that position number one and number two dear -- there's a station right up the road well.
Come on let's calm down you put yourself in that position you know something can happen so there's definitely some paranoia there.
At the end of the day do you believe in general the things he's saying based on everything that you've seen I mean is this somebody where you trust their word -- -- think they've made up a ton of stuff.
I mean what you read -- I think where there's smoke there's fire Melissa's there -- so many people who were analyzing him were looking at him -- so many things don't ring true.
It's -- general populace who really even the people feel that he may be some sort of the patriot even those people are just really unsettled by the way this guy just blew his clearance blew his old.
And is just this just so much coming out of his mouth that is unnecessary.
And if you truly a whistle blower say what you have to say back off.
Don't just keep telling all that -- -- -- your -- I think so are you're good don't analyze anything I'm doing or saying I don't care about it all right Jeff thanks for coming on the show I appreciate it --
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