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Start -- -- -- and Lance -- Fonda went techies go gasping Charlie what do you make of what looks.
You know what's kind of interest in that this is like you know the Fort -- guy right gave lots of signs that he was -- -- he -- terrorist and they ignored it.
Bombers right there was also some Internet stuff that they were doing you know postings whatever.
Didn't get caught -- you get the feeling that this is these are like the keystone cops.
So what scares me when you hit who think he stunk -- the governor governor the government the government has said he would you handle this much information in keystone cops.
And they can't figure out easy stuff.
What are they gonna do with the hard stuff and what do you do all this information you get the feeling that bill misuse it at some point because they really don't know how to use.
You know what I worry about that and would we just won't know until we know apple -- I guess.
Is whether this was under direct order -- -- just complied odd because the government said you know we think you should hand this up over.
-- either way it's unsettling because invariably they do have developed.
Yeah I mean.
I don't think that the these tech companies want to go against government -- certainly Google has been putting out transparency reports for quite awhile about.
Information that they are -- to the government because they have to.
And that's information they're allowed to talk about now the world desperate for the government to allow them to reveal all why they wanted to greens.
What it really negative update you you you you've done well -- of the government I mean I don't know if -- that's right.
Well you know that that's thing we don't know what exactly they're giving giving away and I.
Think what Google and FaceBook and Microsoft -- worried about is that since people don't really know.
This is chilling effect so in the last few years -- -- for five years a lot of people move their information to the cloud right they've moved it basically to remote server service with Google's servers with Microsoft.
Information sitting on FaceBook information sitting on Twitter and that's been the norm.
But if you are concerned now that these companies are allowing the government to access the information be leaving on the cloud based service.
Well maybe you stop using those services especially businesses that might start doing this good this is why these companies are concerned.
Charles is an -- point he points out that this is a business move by that date -- their customers are -- danger I mean that's what they're finding out every day.
That there is an increasingly encroachment about what they look at on the web.
And you know they're reacting to of every a very viable business -- I mean if you.
If everything you do is actually track but it governor governor is asking for multitudes of information we don't know exactly what that is.
People will assume the worst -- look at I look at it -- not just -- got just whether you're you're you know emailing some guy -- -- crusading reporter thank you and.
And our ability at a depth now I would imagine your source on the inserted my email stuff -- you but -- -- -- you'll -- times but OK so.
Have you seen any lesson.
You know just so you know I've been laying off email.
And for many since 2002 and Elliott -- there.
Found all this trove of emails on Henry Blodget how he was privately growing companies he -- rating high you know pieces of -- you know what so I don't use emails but a lot.
Except for like one word answers but.
I will say this -- people did there will be a chilling effect on their business model.
And if you believe them they're saying that you know with the government's -- -- -- all that much information so what they wanted to show everybody that it's it's it's kind of contained.
So just don't worry about your corn usage you can still track -- -- We'll go here's what's unsettling to me -- -- duel at the outset here.
And I just get a sense of -- you guys are the experts but that they're far more interest did.
It is an end and showing their backbone with the Chinese for example -- you can't get that information watching -- of the same pitcher whatever you don't want but it.
And I -- -- that's the kind of weird.
Perverse kind of high tech double standard on seeing here and then it got to bothers me.
Well and I think that all of these tech companies want to show backbone for their customers.
-- they're actually act.
You know it's well written to beat you up if you let we've ever but you don't remember what they're so I I think well that's yet and actually make -- really good point that.
That this -- been going on for awhile obviously.
The only reason that we're all talking about it is because of the whistle blower so you have to wonder.
Why didn't these companies ask for more transparent literally -- -- out.
-- what they say investing -- -- contained it's not like it's not everything needs.
Specific stuff and they they think -- -- -- -- the that's exactly correct right they've got his -- that's really could ever want us.
I'd -- -- he's not doing this is all down publicize the new ozone could well figure -- the worst Lance is they get a worse aren't they get -- You know I I actually I'm Amanda that it -- a lot of bodies at Google for that anymore really object I think that's a few ideas that I'm just getting -- but you know what I'm saying certain.
What I don't know -- is you know I can't really I can't wait to an email we know that tonight and I could use Google like -- off of the the net.
I'd I don't know guys that is and that's when I do appreciate you guys trying to sort it out about miserable element when output -- less -- -- -- -- -- -- -- or.
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