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I had a conversation between James Carville.
It and and Bill O'Reilly.
-- there's various.
Incidents that are going on.
I need and -- government from the -- a Saturday.
Situation you don't Ghazi.
And sister racial.
And and I don't know whether.
-- good reward from the State Department about -- personals ads have clinched.
Others can imagine that but -- -- part of the conversation such a conversation centered on.
Whether you could appropriately -- scandals are not -- and ask -- ask him a question.
I don't -- -- a different -- semantic discussion about scandals less tolerant.
Most national runner usually works fairly well.
-- -- -- Well it's a great question effect of something I've been mulling over I'm thinking of writing about it for my next piece of New York could.
I'm not sure I mean look.
The bad things happen particularly.
That they are asked.
But what is a scandal I think it's.
A scandal is like Monica Lewinsky or Watergate we could come all consuming to the public.
I don't I don't think you know.
I don't think many Americans -- a lot of Americans -- we're Ben Ghazi is.
-- that it was.
A terrible thing that happened at four people were were killed dozens and it was half falsely handled.
By the State Department others is is -- -- screw up it's bad because of this scandal or just.
A malfunction of government.
The -- -- it seems -- -- -- scandal.
But it seems so -- to -- contained -- One office with a bunch of civil.
And the prostitution Belgium black that I think did birdie history -- comically.
Because personable Belgium there -- -- different crossroads to the world that you're there -- your big Delaware look like a four wives submit try you know.
But like -- you know.
So -- I just think.
You know you don't everyone keeps going -- and Sunday shows.
Left and right thing.
You know the left the NSA thing -- the scandal and all the dropping.
It's -- -- that really is landing that way with the public which in the end voters or the final.
-- terminator -- this sort of thing.
But probably -- -- but I.
It wasn't as important and this year.
Does not think it is because she you do have a good point about trying to assess four hours of those same.
Material -- to president.
All the same sort about a little robotic controls the right word about -- doesn't seem like he has his hand.
Well I think -- yet -- had a touch yeah yeah I think.
I think there's going to be sent to that I don't know if in fact.
He is -- I really don't.
No -- present United States would be reaching into the bowels of the IRS on a daily basis so let's that was just yeah doesn't that just.
-- And I'm not sure he's really out of touch although obviously have been sort of blunders physically -- Ben -- they took them forever to get the actual story out releases -- -- a weird way though it works.
For Obama politically I'm not saying this is -- -- when Nixon had a scandal and we knew we was tricky Dick you assumed.
He was up to no good when Clinton and the -- -- slick Willy yeah they'll refer -- the truth.
And -- -- -- character here we really do you have a guy who seems above the fray and that may not be the greatest thing for president to be.
But it a weird way.
It insulates him from being sort of this is you know Machiavellian.
Person -- all these schemes obviously who doesn't seem to care that much about it.
Talking right prisoner managed -- what what what is your view.
Well the editors -- together and his hundreds of millions of call records.
Here's here's what I think.
Didn't we know this is going at all and I mean for heaven's -- if you if you use Google.
It -- had to you would tell and -- you have to things going on your wife.
If you want to look at -- -- -- they're reading your mail why wouldn't.
Problem the government being on this when -- after.
Terror terrorists so -- I'm.
It's not like it's a non story or does unimportant.
But I'm not shocked by it at all -- where you.
All I know I'm not -- I assume.
When I walked outside.
All of that everything -- senator there's been record -- and.
I think you're absolutely right and I think anyone who doesn't do that.
Including a lot of people in congress are constantly caught you know and sexual escapade control and is a fool I mean.
-- you know whether you're -- water chemistry was surveillance cameras or -- you eulogy don't use the Internet.
You're going to be or the following -- really we're talking about the Internet more the focus more people just use the Internet and email amount of phone anyway.
Of course is going to be happening John albeit some funny stuff from John Oliver on earlier another -- he had last night was you know you're gonna have to choose between.
What he really want your privacy -- you have to have the convenience of buying a movie ticket -- your iPad when you're on the toilet.
And give it -- of -- recent record -- got you by a movie ticket you're telling people.
So everywhere you -- -- going.
Those remodel -- that I think it's okay I'm not I'm not sure.
I'm not sure Ryan and -- I know what I think about it but.
I don't think -- necessarily okay either but I do think.
It's a little late in the game.
You know twelve years after -- reporters after 9/11 turbulent and -- induce me to be just shocked that this is going on.
Wonder what's gonna alone.
Out of little snow and got forty infection out -- I I guess he should he should be tried according to law you know I don't regard him as a martyr I don't leave -- trader either.
What's amazing to me is that somebody it was a high school drop out army drop out.
Could -- this.
Bamboo little government and that can't be found -- -- smartest person in the world.
-- -- system and basic.
Played nine year old slacker basically has that the entire world -- -- that's.
More actually you know in a way than its actual alleged crimes.
Applause kind of music and -- since may -- really good.
That he was in Hong Kong and -- McConnell reported.
On the news that he had.
I've checked out of the hotel I had this vision of him in our -- downturn is Killian -- -- -- bills on.
Cameras click through on the -- look at.
By the way let's look at the irony here the whole story is about the fact that he revealed.
-- the government has -- -- surveillance of everybody.
And yet critically it's not that great when they can't find this guy who actually was in the system.
Actually not convinced that we don't already have in my arm and maybe a shot I was talking to Mike Decker.
Earlier this morning who is a guy who was in Covert operations.
In the CIA for fortune airs -- -- And slow -- favored Dallas and look at some -- way.
I decided to -- -- -- the community and do about the city I moved to.
To rural Idaho.
-- -- -- we're convinced.
He has Bob -- routers -- couples who regard to our but maybe doesn't have problems if -- -- -- country.
We've -- -- draw -- Tony Awards.
I did for my sins and little party of former theater critic of the moved fairly fast.
Disputed and did you beautiful and it didn't he adds -- got to stop screaming.
No just short ovals I know and -- my my type of little might start.
Fifty years ago when I enter -- -- --
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