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America has fifty states can be bad confusing each has its own rules and taxes.
It's also good because it creates competition.
When one state does something stupid people can leave that state take their talent money with.
And move -- -- deal between 1995.
Million people move from one state to another.
So which state for the winners which -- the losers let's ask Travis brown who.
Track the movement for his book -- money walks.
And he also created a clever way to see.
Who's moving where and why.
-- Darcy Olsen also joins us she runs a think tank at America's number two state in terms of gaining people and wealth.
But Travis you first so explain this -- thing that you create.
Well thanks the IRS we can track every once income move between the states over the last fifteen years we see big losses from states like New York.
-- it now leave -- York mice hate to end.
I see people are leaving for Florida -- -- of California even.
But the comedy -- for Michigan at least.
While others not to these kind of in migration you want to see but.
First state like Florida and you're seeing a massive amount of people and their income coming in 86 billion dollars.
Florida was the number one Gaynor that's right.
Darcy you run the Goldwater institute and Arizona think tank Arizona's that number Tuesday.
And people come in from Minnesota my state New York that you could say they go to Arizona and Florida just because it's warm -- -- -- for weather.
But you'd be wrong.
But there are -- and whether you're not totally wrong well the number one reason people move.
And the Census Bureau asks and they say to find a job and jobs correlate with a low taxes right does go hand in hand.
Climate isn't that makes up about 5% of people's decisions as a small quality of life factored not the big factor everybody thinks that next.
And John we see that in the date and there are states without an income tax doing very well in this analysis states like Wyoming.
States like Washington State all gaining people and income.
So it's not just the weather what what what are the highlights one of the main things you -- well out of all fifty states there are nine -- Put a price to work and zero that makes them very competitive compared to.
A basket of other states that have a high price our.
-- -- price -- -- made the state income tax puts a price on work that's different between one state or another.
So you have this by non income tax state that stress that button.
Well it shows the big analysis for states like Texas gaining who gained 22 billion dollars last fifteen years that.
Those states like them.
Gained -- 146.
Billion whereas the reverse the states with the highest per personal income tax rate lost over a 120 -- And that they attacked states.
Florida Arizona Texas North Carolina Nevada the biggest losers New York California Illinois New Jersey and Ohio.
I think there's what I call the magic formula and it's taxes on the one hand and good labor policy on the other which means to a business.
Being free to hire and -- the people you want so what you'll see it in an overlap in the most successful states you'll see.
Both -- no income tax are very low taxes coupled with right to work -- -- hand in hand.
Hands down those states will succeed every time John it's not so much that people think oh there's no income tax -- few people do if you're really wealthy you think about that.
Most Americans think where are the jobs where is the opportunity and that's what we know goes hand in hand with these good tax policies that's why these tax policies.
And the labor policies are so critical for policy makers to get right.
And Travis you've noticed that state seem to be doubling down on both good and bad.
Policies that's right you've got states like Minnesota there have been.
Have been talking about it snowbird tax.
Raising marginal tax rates.
Appear you have those kinds of states.
Not doing as well governor Dayton says hey these people are going to Florida and Arizona in the in the winter.
There are Minnesota people -- we should get.
A little penalty for that and I can see the thinking.
If did you disposable income was truly captive within your zip -- -- in your city that might work but what we know back for her mobility today.
Now more than ever.
Is that people can and -- move -- -- do pursue those jobs and where their income is most welcome.
In the states keep raising these taxes think you -- get more money and they get less.
They never -- that shouldn't be a surprise considering the past performance of what -- 134 million taxpayers keep saying with this analysis now.
Com one state that's -- this is moving in the right direction is Oklahoma it hasn't been that well in the past but now it's lowered taxes several times and presto.
People start to move to Oklahoma.
He'll be -- the speaker of the house there so.
TW Oklahoma I think got to dust bowl light of people.
-- moved to Oklahoma.
Well you know John it's simple and Oklahoma we know that if you want more something than.
You don't tax that you tax and less if you want less of something.
You tax it more and so -- movement to.
Reduce our state income tax rate.
It's a 5% five and a quarter now when we can take it to four point 89 in every time we've done -- in the past.
We've seen increased revenues and we've seen growth so we're trying to keep the momentum going in Oklahoma.
And even the usually clueless mainstream media -- -- the start to get this time magazine had a headline in the heartland.
-- which means to them Oklahoma Kansas Missouri supply side is the yellow brick road and supply side is art laughed first argument that if you lower taxes people will come -- you.
What you know when you look at what's happening in -- contrast as to -- seven Washington DC.
It was pretty clear that you know if we're not going to be taking freedoms away from people were trying to expand freedoms and Oklahoma.
And the best way to do that is allow people to keep more of their hard work and money you know we'll continue to move the needle we've got to be competitive.
Our forefathers sought fit -- the states would be competitive in Oklahoma we want to win.
And you feel competition from Kansas and Missouri.
Well there's no question when you've got the thirteenth largest.
Economy in the world just south of you in intact you know in Texas you've got to be competitive and always moving the needle.
And frankly it was like my friend will weather for the speaker of the house in Florida say we've got to be about creating.
Pockets of freedom around the country because if you look at how the federal government's continued.
With its intrusion on personal liberties it's going to be up to the states that are gonna make the difference is there's -- -- be reform in the country.
It's gonna happen in the fifty capitals around the states and Travis.
Oklahoma was losing people for water.
You see a change of fortune in the numbers based on any -- show that -- Oklahoma right here you can see that over time.
They were bottling out losing people in income in about 2005.
That's consistent with some of the tax cuts that they were passing and Oklahoma City at that time I'd also like to point out -- that that didn't happen until I got to act and also back.
I love with the speaker is doing because.
He understands Oklahoma does not have the beaches that Florida and California have they don't have been a huge universities that maybe you have in places like Boston in New York.
A lot of the incumbency factors and other states that are helpful they don't have.
But they know that they can be competitive if they get labor and Texas right and they're gonna do it and before you know -- -- going to be in the top five.
Hit Travis you say celebrities are -- good leading indicator.
Well they are entrepreneurs and we see evidence from people like Tiger Woods and others.
That make the move all the time he moved from California to Florida starting his career NBA players like LeBron James and other players that end up moving to Texas.
From get the first announcement on their doorstep that.
Think of them what you can buy with the money you see the Houston Rockets have pamphlets that remind players how many Rolex Watches -- -- -- could afford from the money is saved in Texas just move in the Texas that's right in many cases these athletes have an opportunity to earn more.
And regardless of whether -- they play another game or not.
Michael Phelps doesn't live in Maryland anymore.
That's right -- Tony Romo is the best.
Paid athlete after taxes even though he might not have -- pay equivalent to others in the NFL he -- because he lives in Texas and no income tax day being a resident of Texas or a resident of a lower tax state.
Means real value.
As speaker Shannon you've lowered taxes several times but what you go to zero like Texas and.
You know we actually had a proposal on the table do that last year because of some lobbying effort we weren't successful at it but again.
I think what's most important that we keep moving the needle you know you have trouble running stack where government.
You know what well you certainly that argument could be made obviously you've got to be able to keep a commitment to core government services but.
You know there are a lot of states around the country that have proven that you can do without a state income tax it's the most regressive tax out there.
And any gain if you want people who you know it is to have investment dollars in your state -- like my mentor JC watts says capital won't -- to a hostile environment.
You've got to keep it is open and free market principle -- you can't in Oklahoma we believe we're doing that.
Thank you speaker Shannon Darcy Olsen Travis brown.
Now Travis is calculations focus on taxes money but there's -- -- freedom McNabb and we'll cover that later tonight.
But my next guest says one state is hot sheet and write and it's not Florida which tops Travis -- list so which state.
-- big hot cheap and right.
That's the title of a new book which is about -- America can learn from the strange genius of Texas is -- grader who wrote that book.
What Texas is filled with geniuses.
Yet it is and people think that's strange I don't know why.
I think it's strange dinner or I -- there are the most cerebral.
State but why is it big -- -- right well.
It's that they say you've heard it's it's hot I think getting that people move to states for the -- totally insane it's hotter -- New York in the summer for half the year.
It's cheap it's a low cost of living low taxes less spending and it's right that's a double entendre meaning it's the right wearing state heavily down -- Republicans at the moment maybe that's changing but also right in the sense of things are working out pretty well in Texas.
Unemployment lower than national average for years chief executive magazine's.
Surveyed CEOs they picked Texas the best state to do business it.
It's about states do -- -- and including business and a number of publications have thought.
About the state push back Paul Krugman writes that Texas miracle is a -- Texas is one of the worst poverty rates.
Highest high school dropout rate last for percentage of people with health insurer.
I think there's a serious problems and say it poverty thing is huge issue for the sake and for the country but these -- not new problems for Texas they've been that way for awhile we've been catching up for a long time and are getting to a point where critics.
In -- states are gonna look at us and say you're not doing well enough yet are getting their sound.
In the bottom line is that people are free to vote with their feet from.
In a third of the people in Texas were born someplace else.
Yeah we had our former nine people move or be added to Texas in the past ten years mostly from California and Illinois from.
You've gained almost five billion dollars in wealth from people moving just from California that's unregistered I would have guessed it has bigger that.
Well that's only the people report it so it's probably.
Some other money they're -- lots of people moved as we said from California and Texas.
Texas governor Perry's -- -- -- about that he was an Illinois recently recruiting new businesses Chicago's mayor.
Rahm Emanuel said -- remembers -- and his reasons.
Which of course was a reference to this it's.
Three agencies and government when I get there that are gone.
And the what's the third -- let's say I can't but there I can't start the groups.
It was energy couldn't remember he could've gotten rid of departments of agriculture interior and so on two but that's another story.
-- rom can make -- make fun of pairing in the facts are on.
Well I think in theory you can have a governor who can remember a list and create jobs -- if you had to choose which I think realistic averages the jobs rather -- the last.
Me mayor -- -- first.
And California's governor also smears that your -- -- he denies that people run from California to Texas to come to cal.
Because this word is he's not going to cut Lubbock or -- those places are that make up that state.
-- who want to spend in other Summers in the 110 degree heat inside some kind of fossil fuel air conditioner.
Yeah it's funny he has to say fossil fuel air conditioner like.
Many of them or not but a lot -- and a 110 degree heat.
Yeah well we actually had a lot we're the nation's leading wind power state and a lot of that when power comes from product.
But you know I'm happy to see the governor of California -- in Texas comes -- they've been defense -- while maybe there.
Getting back there in a defensive crouch and industrialized country I think that's been maybe and in an issue for the country as a whole that we are -- -- recessionary.
That stage now but we're not getting back to where you want to be so if Texas and it's hubris.
Is doing that more effectively then I'm all for -- on this program is critical of Governor Perry in Texas for corporate welfare some companies.
Got paid big to move there Bank of America home -- Samsung T-Mobile room.
When asked about that well you know we we close and just I think with Texas -- -- -- the -- has a pretty free market but in practice.
It's very pragmatic and -- and strategist for employment are pro business protects this business rather than strictly ideologically for racketeering.
Certain things like.
And subsidies incentives -- -- -- spending to try to build out industries are tracked particular companies are regions of the state.
Hasn't gone for a while most states do that.
We get also.
And my favorite part that really illustrates how Texas is different is you you're you're legislature for this big state.
Doesn't meet every year now.
Every two years every other year for 140 days.
And Pennsylvania for example which has half the population has more legislators -- they pay them ten times as well.
I guess Pennsylvania has a really awesome government and they are doing great things are all the time.
In Texas they're paid only 7000 bucks a year one I think one of the new guys just realized that -- -- -- and his -- can happen.
Thank you Erica creator coming -- more roles in the states two states legalize marijuana.
Will that earn the money from marijuana tourist.
There's -- competition between -- called an erotic than everything and there's going to be a winner.
But next union power does that make states better for workers.
Or worse will argue about that.
I used to work for ABC news -- before that WCBS.
When I moved to New York for the job I was told I had to join a union.
After the American federation of TV -- radio artists.
This -- what you -- -- I'm not an artist I wanna pay dose.
But I headed to I was told New York's a forced union state.
But half the states are that means if a majority of workers in your area vote to four reunion every one mosques -- and so I did for 36 years but now -- are now I'm at fox which is nonunion.
And I think it's great that there's now a trend away from forced unionization.
Indiana and Michigan recently passed a right to work laws which say workers cannot be forced to pay union did they joined 24 states that already had such loss.
Great but no that's terrible says David -- live the American worker project at the Center for American Progress America's biggest progressive think tanks all.
David why am I wrong.
-- -- Iran for a couple reasons first you can never be forced to join a union you can't be required to pay union dues to.
That cover the cost so for example representing -- and bargaining for your contract.
But the bigger and more important reason is that unions make the middle class to help make the middle class stronger without unions you really are undercutting the middle class.
But where's the evidence that the union makes the middle class stronger.
Henry Ford doubled auto workers' wages.
And shortened the work day -- -- before -- UAW even existed.
-- -- of the book I think the best evidence you can look at the US over time when unions -- at their strongest.
The middle class was at its strongest as unions have declined in power over the past thirty years the middle class is significantly weekend we have a chart looking at unemployment.
In America and it goes up and now and there was.
The lowest unemployment.
In the twenties before labor unions -- -- -- -- we have high unemployment and vice Versa.
Big key thing to know here is that what unions do is they help give workers some basic bargaining power in the relationship.
So that workers can join together and negotiate with -- boss on more relatively equal footing that gives them the ability to get.
It large larger pay -- checks and things like benefits like health care and retirement that's great if I want to have this union bargained for me.
But what -- I think that they do a bad job what what if I can negotiate higher -- directly myself because I work harder than the other guys in my union.
And I -- did -- -- to work harder.
Well you can if you don't like -- union you didn't reject vote to reject our contract votes even to certify a union means get rid of the union you also can work for different employer.
There you know you have lots of choices but when you work for an employer for example you know they have requirements they often require you to Wear at a particular uniform or -- can monitor your your keystrokes on a computer they.
You know when you work for employer there are certain knowledge that often come with that.
And if you happen to work for unionized employer one of those obligations.
Is to pay for the cost of representation.
Says the law and about half the states that the employer may not want that the worker may not want it what what do you say what union negotiates still could work rules and at WCBS -- -- to work.
The union editors promising it can't be done you can't touch that tape machines.
And sometimes it took -- five minutes to get out of the car to go shoot something if it sucks the incentive out of people.
Unions like any other democratic organizations sometimes do things that people are people don't think in -- are in.
The interest of -- society that sometimes happens.
That said what unions do as a whole is they give power to workers to negotiate on relatively equal footing with their employers.
That enables them to get a relatively fair bargain.
Without that we see that they get much lower wages less benefits.
What our economy needs at this moment is workers to have purchasing power to spend on goods and services that -- our economy.
And really that's what's been happening for much of that much of recent years is that there's not enough purchasing power workers are not earning enough money unions raise wages for some people.
But others become unemployed because of the union I think Toyota paid 48 bucks an hour creating jobs in America.
She was paying 73 bucks they lost 30000 jobs C -- help a -- get hurt more because those companies don't grow.
Well no actually what the studies show is that.
Raises workers not just for workers who are members of unions but.
Broader for the broader middle class because other employers feel they need to compete and raise their wages on that level so it has much broader spillover effects throughout the economy studies.
Estimate what the spillover effects right -- -- states do better.
No no they don't know the highest.
Material the highest unemployment in the country right now is a right to work state third highest unemployment rate is also right -- fifth highest is also right to work.
So -- southern states have been poorer for a long time over the past ten years employment and right to work states increased by with a 5%.
In you reinstate it fell.
-- I can -- best studies any study that really compares.
Right to work that actually controls for other factors that are likely to lead to job growth show that right to work has no effect unemployment in Oklahoma.
They found actually no effect on employment in fact manufacturing employment the kind of employment that right to work -- -- to help.
It's not saying it right to work was the factor -- decreased it's just -- larger global forces here and the reason that.
Companies choose to locate -- based on the education levels of workers in the state they're based on the quality infrastructure can negate goods and services to you know to and from.
And also is their demand for their product and that's really what's -- the -- here is that when unions do is they help.
Workers get better wages and benefits that creates demand and that's what we need an economy right now.
Well thank you David -- we agree to disagree.
Up next personal freedom.
How -- the states compare that's next.
I live here in New York City I like it but.
Like the new mini state park New York is lots of restrictions on freedom.
Forced unionization rent control strict gun laws hike taxes.
Some -- that's just near city but New York State isn't so great either.
And a new study by the -- -- is -- freedom in the fifty states ranks New York dead last.
This year were Kate has made a video about their contests.
Every two years all fifty states convened to compete for the title of most free -- the winner will receive more residents fewer burdensome.
Moves that slow growth and fewer nanny state regulations come wandering around New York -- the middle of the.
Good now sadly.
Very there he is an economist at Merck -- -- and will Ruger wrote that studies so.
Will the New York was the worst.
What was the best.
North Dakota was the best actually followed by South Dakota Tennessee and New Hampshire and Oklahoma with I don't -- Right behind but in terms of personal freedom we have another ranking which there with a winner was Alaska Nevada Maine New Mexico New Hampshire -- break it down by economics and personal for exactly and in the economics its fiscal and regulatory policy and personal freedom we talk about things like.
Freedom from incarceration -- arrest for victimless crimes.
Gun control education policy marriage policy even travel freedoms.
-- assigning your -- saying if they allow gay marriage that's good you're making value judgments here.
Short mean freedom as a moral concept.
But we can study it scientifically to see which states are more or less -- And -- I don't see people wanting to move to the south and North Dakota last month.
But you know what's actually really interesting about the study is that it shows of people followed jobs and and and jobs full of freedom economic freedom regulatory freedom but also personal freedom and so -- -- there's a connection.
And it's India act but it's there.
And some states have -- eighteen states increased freedom since the last study so.
That's not -- you see when you watch the politicians.
-- piles of regulation.
It's all relative bright I mean what matters is -- prices like New York.
Seen a lot of migration we've seen a lot of migration out of New York the New York is still growing but it's really actually growing.
-- one of the slowest right on all the states.
One of the comparisons you guys make is is comparing the burden of regulation so let's play more your video.
Indiana and Delaware are rocketing a -- West Virginia's liability system and New Jersey is a piece of property rights are leaving -- stuck in the -- six I think California is going to -- It was labor laws and that liability system is too much.
Labor laws and liability don't even mention all -- -- crazy environmental laws in California that make power across more.
Yeah and one of the things what California is what don't they regulator right I mean everything from their liability system being problematic to even offer authorizing rent control which only a few states do it's a left over from World War II.
It when you compare to states like Indiana where they're relatively free -- Indian as the number one state in terms -- regulatory freedom it has.
You know land use planning -- -- occupational licensing is this pretty minimal they have a great liability system.
And what we've seen is that actually regulatory policy tracks with personal income growth so -- a real cost for California's regulations and a real benefit for a state like.
So that what goes on places like California they have the coastline they have awesome weather.
It it's beautiful it's like that you get comfortable in the you just get smog in the politicians get -- empty -- -- Well I mean.
All kinds of things are going on there it's a complicated story but what's amazing is that given all those advantages you listed.
People are still voting with their feet to get out of there and California's a wonderful place -- is there any.
Hardly any place better than San Diego -- my view in terms of the weather and all the amenities and yet.
You seeing over 4% of the population escaping that state to neighboring states that are more free including.
States -- -- person briefly free like Nevada.
And it's not -- in California is not a top destination for immigrants anymore legal or illegal and that tells you something when you have a lot of regulations.
I whatever form they take it kills jobs and and people don't want to go back.
And look at Illinois and Indiana for comparison the right next door.
Illinois even has one of the greatest cities in the country in Chicago.
And yet people are fleeing Illinois.
It's if you're -- you're reading some states are bad for personal freedom but good another area.
South Dakota's second overall.
Ranks 46 and personal for it.
Right I mean south Dakota's great fiscal policy but it really -- to make improvements in the personal freedom -- has really high.
Victimless crime -- incarceration rates I'd authorize a sobriety checkpoints.
Things like -- Are not so great and then there are some states actually they're kind of purple states like New Hampshire Colorado.
Even Georgia Missouri where -- actually do well on both areas and so those -- the places I see as being really attractive to people in the future as we see people desirous of freedom -- voting with their feet.
-- -- Well thank you will -- very neat this is a valuable study for anybody who's thinking of starting a new and some -- state.
Coming up speaking of personal freedoms two states legalize weed who we went to one that have where we are told everyone's happy.
I don't see an injury -- -- around here.
Everybody's happy for a minute and you yeah I'm never gonna go to sudden shows people want big news like you come here doing.
This year two states legalized the use of marijuana.
Not just so called medical marijuana for people who have a prescription.
Colorado Washington legalized it for anyone 21 -- From worst travel guide predicts Colorado -- Washington will now get a lot of tourists from other states.
Few weeks ago thousands of people gathered in Denver celebrate Colorado's new -- by -- -- Illness can -- this show's special correspondent.
She went there to cover the event should the federal government me telling you what -- your body.
Knotted up how -- is what the government has certainly put my body comes we the government has told us for so long that we can put antibody.
And -- that he -- Keenan are saying no we're gonna answer these decisions.
My heart -- wait a second the federal government says no it's law takes precedence.
The Obama administration is rated more than 200 marijuana dispensaries.
This seems -- odd given that.
Politicians routinely admit they used to drug which of your ready to.
-- admit to having used marijuana in the past -- -- if you know.
And yes -- Edwards yes.
I experimented with -- no woman congressman and I didn't like it.
And didn't inhale.
-- -- -- -- -- -- The point do you think you have a good.
Yes nobody here hypocrite at this rally people sold all kinds of marijuana paraphernalia.
Reselling them -- -- actually sailing around ten days.
I mean for your own product and there.
Heated up this -- -- less yeah.
He charges -- your cellphone.
High times magazine hosted these candidates cop which gives an award to the most potent.
At least there's competition between -- All the new products and everything and there's going to be overweight parent there were lots of tourists from out of state I'm from Oklahoma so this is.
Pretty -- And people smoked weed right in front of the police -- the illegal do you consume marijuana in public this is clearly in public.
So he says that but he standing in front of people who -- smoking in public.
Yeah that guy with -- he explained that the law was basically written by donors that wasn't written by lawyers and and that was the lieutenant -- description of it.
He even even put a provision there where people could.
Smoke marijuana legally outside so this your festival with no different than last year -- although -- was celebrating.
Building remains just as the illegal it was just is illegal to smoke -- I -- they don't arrest anybody they leave that that you individual.
Judgment of there -- -- are so you know he was saying.
Same thing with smoking -- if you're welcome we'd be in mouthpiece with a police officer.
They're gonna -- -- time.
To be clear -- -- it's legal to possess up to one ounce of marijuana which -- by -- I want to know you kind of allow.
And Alex is this is not -- that's just something that looks like it.
Com date they lead up at 4:20 PM yeah this this big thing about 420 what's that about.
Don't really knows exactly I mean it might have been -- -- was here on April 20 yet okay April 24.
-- -- -- -- -- so if someone says here.
Deal -- twenty what they're saying is do you love put marijuana into your body and enjoy -- the wonderful euphoric feelings that follow.
And you know I don't know if you do it's not my business I'm not really -- did.
But that's its hotel on April 20 there's a big celebration -- -- when he exactly they had to count down and that's when.
If you didn't get a.
Contact high you were an alien with no breathing app -- people think it's it's the cold in the California.
Penal code for herb marijuana -- staff.
But infection is not now if that for twenty refers to obstructing entry on public land.
In all this is some California high school kids eat it -- would agree to meet at 4:20 PM yeah.
And that's become this nation wide -- Or Manhattan I got a lot of because they were all wearing their marijuana clothing -- little marijuana glasses.
The video shows all these people just being happy.
But it and people say marijuana like alcohol does make people angry -- at that rally.
There was a shooting yeah at least spend all day at that rally and fortunately you only went to -- cup which with the other rally.
We can't have this cup is a contest they also have there will talk about that the second out but what -- about the shooting.
You have to rally we came back and people were streaming out of the park because there's nothing worse than when someone harsh -- your -- help.
My -- -- horrible shooting an event like that.
-- -- you know surges of adrenaline people is part of the park and that they're still looking for the suspects and there was so there was some gain incident they said.
-- and they weren't hidden by the way -- out.
Marijuana brings together many different people from.
All walks of life you're talking about you know like seven year olds were still holding on to The Grateful Dead dream.
-- -- talking about you know 21 year old I'm assuming they were twenty when they looked quite young.
And -- -- they're experimenting with that for the first time sell its people from all walks of life and no one else was violent I have to say.
They were very very happy.
For the most part you brought up the hypocrisy argument yes and it and this bugs me that Obama the other presidents.
Say -- smoked we.
But they arrest people and President Obama has.
Continued to have raids in states where medical marijuana is legal yeah.
Yeah 200 plus they're still doing it yet you have legal growers people who are registering their plan -- legal but the Fed law Ted does take priority and it you know.
A lot of second -- cabinet when he ran he wasn't going to use his administration is a tool for justice.
-- states where medical marijuana is legal he had done the exact opposite and he is but did so many dispensaries especially in northern California and if that's not hypocrisy.
I don't know what is.
And the candidates -- you mentioned something what's that book now.
Apparently for the first time this with a non medical marijuana growing and consuming competition where.
People were able to try different types of marijuana and then they decide.
What tasted that's what made them feel -- And so the winner was in the mix flowers category with platinum Girl Scout Cookies by private stock -- so.
That is an -- of some.
Type of we'd go out.
And what strikes me about this legalization movement it illustrates as politicians always do how clueless they are about the beauties of the free market.
Has appointed a pot czar they have to they say to decide how will the pot come to market.
Is someone who understands the aspects of wheat harvesting quality testing pricing.
Don't they understand that if you -- things it just happens the UPS delivers 300 packages a minute the -- just does this.
Yeah and but -- -- see with this I think the more that marijuana is legalized.
It's going to be incredibly.
Because there's no facet of our lives that the government won't regulate so now they're saying while this might actually be quite an industry that we can tap in detail.
And tax people and spend even more money so.
Could they want to decide how many growers in stores will be there will there be.
Markets work that stuff out they absolutely -- and if you let the market decide as far as marijuana it'll be safe -- You'll have better product and -- -- happier customers if that's possible but the politicians grow government he did that.
The pop star has a thirty member team in -- Washington.
Are coming up on the rumbled in the states if you want to spread freedom to -- one stage that might let you do that.
Right after the founders signed this our constitution.
Ben Franklin said.
I agree -- -- constitution.
Because I think in general government necessary.
But he went on to say this is likely to end in despotism as other forums have done before.
-- It's creepy but true most governments go bad freedom is not the natural state affects so three cheers for state competition.
May be out rumble between the states will preserve liberty limit the Democrats powered -- take our freedom -- -- move to other states.
One group of liberty loving people decided the best way to increase liberty would be to move from a small state.
And then get 20000.
Other freedom lovers to move to that state to win -- they would have enough votes to prevent big government from dominating their lives.
So which state.
Well it would need to be small so the 20000 votes would really make a difference they -- the vote and New Hampshire want.
New Hampshire already has lax gun laws those sales tax in the freedom and our ride a motorcycle without a helmet.
And so far about 141000.
People have agreed to -- A thousand -- already they're not at 20000 but they're gaining about thirty new members a week.
They call themselves the free state project.
However New Hampshire still libertarian paradise state and local taxes and increased not a right to work state Sony laws in some areas raise the price of housing.
Enough -- K is freedom ranking.
-- New Hampshire fell from second place to fourth place.
But the free staters are fighting back.
More than a dozen have already been elected to the state legislature.
A few practice Civil Disobedience.
When officials told a free -- to get -- -- dropped his lawn he named bit freedom couch and he refused to move it.
He spent three days in jail for that.
Mother Jones reports that others have been cited for violating open container laws jerking a City Council meeting.
Or for indecent exposure and firearms possession at the same time.
And this video shows a bunch of them smoking marijuana inside a police station.
Police did not resting place.
The free state projects having -- get together next month it's called pork fest.
Not because of the pork of big government but because a libertarian mascot is the porcupine.
Which sends the message leave me alone I mind my own business I won't bother you but if you intrude on me remember I have spikes.
The good motto I wish politicians and all fifty states saw people as individuals with prickly -- Who want to be left a long.
That's our show I'm John -- See you next week.
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