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Richard had said.
And this leak causing appear on Capitol Hill the Director of National Intelligence calling the information dump reprehensible and -- it compromises national security.
How damaging are these Intel -- to the national.
Curious to joining us from Washington with the global security attorney Brian -- thanks for being with -- Bryant so when the league's first started happening.
We were assured by Washington politics politicians I -- -- -- doing this for years nothing new here not to worry.
And now suddenly it's a -- -- steps forward this has been a big threat to national security but which is it.
Well it's a little bit about there definitely is -- prop.
-- with respect to national security because while these programs have been going on for years they've been out of sight out of mind especially for our enemies the terrorists.
And when these details come out particularly who the government is working with the telecommunications.
Companies -- some of the Internet companies now terrorist potential terrorists can no.
That certain modes of communication are in fact compromised and they should look.
To avoid those and -- that that presents a problem for -- national security purposes when we're giving away.
Methodologies to surveil our targets but what self respecting terrorist wanna be.
What -- already assuming that of course the Americans are monitoring all communications.
Well you know you you were talking about definitions here we're talking about self respecting terrorist -- talking about Osama bin Laden.
Are we talking about the homegrown radicalized terrorists who isn't necessarily.
At the cream of the crop of -- Harvard.
But wants to do something bad and -- come up with a way by looking got to inspire online to develop pressure cooker bomb.
So there are folks who are that sophisticated.
And to realize that maybe all five buy disposable cell -- or disposable cellphone that I can.
Hide my communications in post anonymously and FaceBook.
Mean look even General Petraeus got tripped up by.
Using some terrorist tactics so there are lots of folks who can easily be tripped up this -- All right and those Allen the government contracting firm that.
Employed the guy who did this leaking feds -- shocked to that this has happened kind of the country alive from Casablanca.
But the guy worked for the firm for only three months that that's all it takes to get -- -- security clearance he got a guy working -- three months.
Actually top secret clearance takes a long time to prepare I've gone through the process and it it took a very long time actually come through and that's one of the great complaints in in the United States government -- contractor community right now that it takes too long.
In order to get top secret clearance of the process is probably in place after awhile but you know as you know these people once they get access to this information.
Then you get into issues like -- -- the information control.
Other systems on the computers or the Internet monitoring programs to prevent this kind of data from being leaked.
I see and if this big fishing expedition is so sleeping how is that we managed to miss -- -- bomber.
-- -- -- -- That there's lots of dots out there there's lots of dots to be connected were pulling -- a lot of information but as we're also seeing those algorithms out there.
To take a look at this information and trying connect these dots I mean really.
Were victim of our own success at this point we've been so successful tracking down terrorists in Pakistan and Somalia and Central Africa.
Then now -- getting down to the more self radicalized individuals who don't really communicate with too many people.
And as a result they may avoid these kinds of dragnet and what they'll say Dennis is that what really worries me at the end of the day about this debate is that.
We're not necessarily gonna see any change in the near future with respect to -- the Patriot Act.
But we do have a legislative debate going on -- respect to cyber security.
And privacy is a huge component of the -- and companies need access to information need to be able to share it without worry about.
Accidentally disclosing private information what website for visiting its that are OK if we if this crimson that they weren't big trouble got around Thanksgiving -- today Brian bench.
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