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The IRS -- my next -- freedoms of religion assembly petition all the risk.
Because of the growing powers and abuses of the Internal Revenue Service.
Here to talk about as well what happened to his organization.
For the first time ever Tony Perkins.
He's going to be revealing for the first time ever what happened Tony is.
I am delighted to say has been very frequent guest in this part conspiracy talk with a -- -- -- you -- that you did the weather.
Well you know what I do whatever is news and that that is news that storm as you saw there it was quite it's quite something.
We got a storm -- as well.
Evangelical organizations like your own are.
A target of the Internal Revenue Service.
Tell us about what happened to you whether it's widespread you've had organizations that were seeking tax exemption that work.
Asked about the content of their prayers we -- organizations that -- are required to sign affidavits that they wouldn't protest out of outside of Planned Parenthood clinics.
You know we -- what we found since that is all the people now start talking and saying hey we had an audit we have an investigation.
And we know we didn't talk prior to this because we just thought that was the way government did business.
We had a what's called compensation -- during this same time where we had to turn over hundreds and sure to -- pages of paper.
-- told staff hours it's still hasn't been resolved now was that a part of the targeted scandal.
You know I don't know that -- but that's the problem what is the IRS allegation.
They -- Well there there's no allegation that is coming is -- we -- audit you and we will look at to have you compensate your employees.
And the question would be.
For the question would be for us as well you'll look at this what we just want to see if you're within standards and if you've paid everything you need to -- right it's -- -- -- -- efficient fishing expedition I mean we got a clean bill of -- I'm sure.
Because we do everything by the book but the fact is why did they come after us was it to -- -- do this again.
This began doing the same time -- about eighteen.
24 months ago and it's still on resolved.
You know we're so we're still working with the attorneys to try to get it settled because they -- just a moment we're not -- money.
We we've done everything we need to do to comply with the law.
It was it in -- this goes back to the point about these scandals Lou.
Is the IRS -- lost credibility it's like Enron it's like Tyco.
They do they're out -- blowing our money.
They're targeting people.
They lacked credibility I think it's time we do away with the IRS.
We to totally reform our system taxation.
The -- Can I sit here because -- I'm hearing this from.
Not when you -- -- respect immensely.
Dave Camp the chairman of the Ways and Means Committee.
I think there's a great danger.
In new conservative so I'm an independent conservative but I'm an independent conservative.
You conservatives inflating.
The issues here with the tax code in the corruption of the Internal Revenue Service completing the abuse of power.
-- -- -- a tax code that is a monstrosity.
This is political corruption it is evaluation into our federal government it is normal and we obviously and importantly in the Internal Revenue Service.
But it extends to our Justice Department our State Department meaning there's no hard there's -- department within this administration that hasn't been touched by some scandal but here's the point.
We have a system that so.
Massive and so convoluted that.
It it'll get -- -- -- -- has nothing to do with this president is an all likelihood.
We'll leave him out of it until it's there.
His political arm is now being represented by the Internal Revenue Service when it goes after you.
When he goes after conservative groups there's I don't know what are your rights there's two issues here are definitely two issues and the more important issue wind at right now.
Is to rip corruption from this government wherever we find it and not in any way be distracted from my course what -- agree well I agree that there's -- -- there's a two step process one is to ferret out the information.
Find out who committed these crimes and prosecute and to the -- six and -- law but.
We've got to fix it so that this -- used again by another corrupt administration you know how long what you're hearing stuff about not used again and there's also I know election year drag on back the next.
OK so here we are and again.
-- we've got to presidency right now that is in golf in scandal it is obviously an administration.
Beyond any any -- -- just a year ago.
What we have now is a problem to solve and it can't be done and have -- issues and I'm here right in there's a danger here.
If we do not address these criminal activities.
What we do is we allow the moral boundary of what's acceptable to be moved.
-- we undermine our very system our own system of government we don't -- you know one of the things that occurs to me I've never seen the Republican Party the conservative movement more divided.
This is my perception that it is right now.
In a time when -- family research council when all of these conservative groups are should be coming together.
And working together.
You're you're desperate you're split your divided and I know you're going to say -- everything's hunky -- because there's -- development story.
The reality is this is a noble cause that either you conservative stand up for and -- -- In support of our -- our congressman who got -- our senators who got the guts and the courage to get it done.
This is an assault on our country in my opinion in there there's more happening than you might see on the surface there is unity under that.
Understanding what's at stake here that -- be you've got the untoward about action I don't know it's it's happening it's happening either what did you tell us what's happening.
Well there -- that's the news here.
-- -- one knows that there is anything happening outside what we see.
In the halls of congress and were.
Awfully proud and happy that somebody say -- -- and first off the information is folks are coming forward to say what happened -- -- organization -- -- -- What you've got other scandals that are in golf -- -- -- we're we're gonna have to take that reverently with -- Tony it's always great to have you with us are good heart hurts the.
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