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Well our top story tonight Chrysler brazenly thumbing its nose at the national highway transportation safety administration.
After it issued a recall request -- almost three million Jeep grand cherokees and Jeep liberties.
Safety officials say the gas tanks in these vehicles could catch fire in a rear end crash.
-- Chrysler says this is just the government witch hunt.
For standing up to the government or -- taking the recall request more seriously would you still -- -- joining me now is copper.
-- tracked an attorney Patrick -- the -- thanks to both of you for joining us Scott let me start with you.
About this I mean on one hand I'm impressed they're standing up to the government on the other hand.
You know the government says that 51 deaths have been related to these gas tank fires where do you come down.
I actually guided think that it's -- good move by Chrysler.
To stand up for themselves it but let's face -- the government is not always right.
-- when they took a look at the numbers they did a more thorough search of the numbers and they said look we're not it's not any more likely to happen in -- than it is any of these other vehicles and in fact there's other -- that it's more likely to happen.
Pat what do you think about that -- -- Chrysler says that the analysis is faulty.
That the government didn't use all the data that was available to meet some -- -- them.
Harrison's wood that pulled up in court or does this feel like a class action lawsuit ready to happen the moment that next accident.
-- -- I think you'd expect Chrysler to have that type of response.
He in the wake of a a claim like this coming from the government and B.
It's as far as the the civil justice system goes -- mean.
This is that this is the only way that people were grieve by allegedly defective products.
Attempt to seek compensation so I mean while I wouldn't expect Chrysler to say anything else the report.
Certainly does state some some very valid points to it.
Scott -- totally disagree with pat I would expect Chrysler to say something -- I feel like when you hear.
You know recall recommendation.
It feels to me like 99% of the time.
But companies say all right may go ahead with that -- there too worried to stand up to the government how unusual is it.
It's very unusual.
The last time company refused to do -- recall was Chrysler and that was in 96.
In eventually Chrysler went to court and won and they didn't have to do the recall.
It's it's it's really important it most carmakers recalled vehicles even before Nixon send them a letter and asked them to do -- voluntary recall.
And additionally it's a voluntary recall it and it's -- could force them to do it because it was unsafe they would force them.
I have no problem at all with the company saying look what you're showing us is wrong.
I mean the damage is already being done to Chrysler right now I mean all of this news coming out is going to hurt them in the long run.
Maybe it would be better for them on a PR side to.
To recall the vehicles again.
At the end of the day if they built the vehicles correctly and another thing to point out is that a most of the crashes that they talk about.
The amount of -- in them was so severe no car would have survived any of those accidents.
Yeah but what they're trying to say and pat maybe you can address -- what they're trying to say is that the gas tank.
Is positioned in a way of the fact that when there's a rear end collision it is more likely to explode.
Pat I would imagine that -- Chrysler they sat down they did the math our company this -- what they're supposed to do they have shareholders.
There's supposed to sit there and do the map and and judge what what it costs for us to do this recall.
-- is what is it gonna -- that we get sued later down the road we don't do the recall and somebody dies or bunch of people -- And as a class action lawsuit and then you also have to add on top of that.
They hit they tape from a PR standpoint and who doesn't want to buy their cars after that it seems like.
It's more costly not to do the recall what he how do you think the map would work out.
Well it's it's it's it's hard to say at this point but I I think it's you -- you make a good point is that.
It's it's early in the game right now they're making their strategic effort.
Two to back up their product essentially what the consumers are saying consumer advocates.
And and the government is saying is that there is an allegedly defective product that the design defects.
To the vehicle itself.
So you're gonna have pushed back now and whether this turns out and and and ends up being an entire recall.
Or it ends up being situation like you saw back in the early or mid ninety's excuse me with the antilock brake system on.
On minivans -- -- Chrysler where they offered a modification.
Maybe that'll happen but it's an adversarial process.
Where where -- tons of folks have been injured here.
And -- -- keep that it respects.
How do you see the map working out because it in 1996 when they didn't do the recall it did work out of that but in this case they're weighing the -- the recall of one side -- against.
The cost of -- potential lawsuit and hit that they would take from.
Lowered sales and lower demand for their products if this turns out badly.
Which which is more expensive in your opinion.
Make it's it's really tough for -- to judge that they -- the problem is he's had -- accidents happen.
And I'm not only do accidents happen sometimes they're just horrible horrific accidents in a vehicle will not survive that accident.
We cannot make vehicles fool proof we can't make them so that you can drive them off -- -- that people will survive.
The government is is satisfied or at least willing to allow 30000 deaths a year.
On our highways and in this instance.
When Chrysler did the math the math that they did was there's.
Millions and millions of hours of driving -- these cars and that they've been perfectly safe and they stand by the design.
-- that has even said that that particular design.
There with the gas tank behind the rear axle between the bumper in the rear axle.
Was okay and there's lots of vehicles that have that it's hard.
But -- you know I I don't know I I don't think that it's simple.
That fight club formula.
How much does not -- how does your -- -- he's already is in a boardroom.
The setting up the numbers and trying to make the decision only time will tell NA and you know I love anyone who stands up for the government the same time.
It would make me nervous to drive this vehicles -- gentlemen thank you so much for coming on the show we appreciate your time.
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