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-- joining us congressman Mike at China.
So all of the -- everything that I've seen so far we do not know who orchestrated.
The iris campaign who folded it.
All what there was such an orchestration.
After all we do not know at this point and that's the source of frustration to us.
Well I think it is and I think where everyone knows is this just not did not just spontaneously happened a group of employees did not just begin to.
Orchestrate this on this so -- on this was directed.
This was systematic getting -- that the -- that is is executed a very systematic.
Organized bureaucratic way you know that someone's in charge.
That's why congress is doing investigations it's not just it and -- -- as as wrong behavior it's also identifying it as who should be held accountable so we can make -- this doesn't happen again.
Why haven't -- well if we're asking the question.
Was the election last year.
Affected by the government using the machinery of government.
To beat up on president Obama's political opponents you answer the question force was used in that way.
Well it has to have an effect because in addition to.
Basically you know if you -- -- harassing these groups organizations meaning -- they had to spend their time elsewhere besides communicating a message.
There are some groups that never got approved so they never had the ability to organize themselves and orchestrate the -- of the dissemination of their message.
But you also had people who you know were supporters of these groups and organizations contributors who were receiving.
An additional scrutiny or basically punishment for being conservatives.
Those people had to think twice about whether or not they continued at the same level and certainly would have an effect on on their friends as they anecdotally told that the government is turning on its own people.
The hearings are about to stocks what do you expect to hear from them.
I think at this point we're gonna continue to get the sidestep I think -- your congress are going to have to heated to dive deeper in this to find out exactly.
How this was orchestrated we know that it did not happen from just a group of people that in Cincinnati.
We know that you know this is coming -- from somewhere off in the top.
And we're -- Obama.
But if you appoint a special prosecute or if that's what you push for.
And -- get a special prosecutor that will put everything under wraps for a long long time because if you're investigating like that people would say can't told Donna what's happening it's under investigation.
Well the thing is that this is so important and it never happen again one of my concerns is that as we do the investigation we're finding it even if TI Harris did.
This in an orchestrated way and then with leadership from the top it may not have been a crime.
I have a bill that would make it a crime to make certain that if people do this if they use the investigative arm of the government against the government's -- people based on their political beliefs or religious beliefs.
This should be a crime all right Thomas of Montana thanks for joining us on a very busy -- -- appreciate as a let's bring it.
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