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A lot of our first guest tonight says the attorney general is -- -- responsible for these dangerous incursions.
Into the First Amendment.
That search -- threaten our freedom of expression joining me now is this country's leading First Amendment attorney Floyd Abrams he has a new book coming -- tomorrow friend of the court.
On the front lines with -- First Amendment as I say it will be released tomorrow it is great to see her decision.
It would that was quite a spectacular.
I think series of statements from the attorney general's office.
In the Justice Department.
The principal deputy responding saying -- regard to the -- potential prosecution of the press.
For the disclosure material that is not something that I've been involved in bird or would.
Think would be a wise policy this is what the attorney general sat.
How could that not be outright contravention of -- To the way I do it.
He may well be telling the truth that they never imagined prosecuting.
Problem is they told the judge.
Affidavit by the FBI.
Submitted by the Department of Justice.
That the journalist.
That there was probable cause to believe the journalist was violated the Espionage Act and at the very least.
He was -- -- or choir or better of someone who was doing it so basically.
And this is unacceptable.
For basically they were trying to persuade a judge to give them -- search warrant.
And whether or not they believe there were going to go after the journalist.
To me isn't the real point the real point is there was no basis -- ever saying to the judge.
That the journalist was -- -- there and a better.
As a rare citizen the big deal for me is that the attorney general.
The with the attorney general and FBI agent and a judge signed off on what every one of those people should've known -- -- -- I agree with.
Look I agree that I'll I'll I'll give the judge.
Because he had before -- -- affidavit.
From an FBI agent saying.
That the journalist was a flight to rich I mean that that was.
I mean whether or not it was credible when it was said it cannot have been believed.
By people in the Department of Justice.
If it amazes me that three institutions.
And states justice to our.
Our our -- Federal courts.
And the FBI.
Put their honor.
To the side and -- They did -- in the name of the United States.
This document was filed.
In court on the stationary.
Of the United States of America in the name of the United States.
And what it said.
Part is that the journalist.
Was in effect violating the espionage law and it wasn't true that wasn't true when they said it.
And whether or not my guess is correct.
That that -- their way of getting a search warrant.
That it's still unacceptable.
And and -- we go from here.
The idea that.
That this could even there would be any discussion practice that the president would not immediately dismiss this attorney general.
That immediately there wouldn't be -- call off for a full investigation of the FBI who signed.
The of the papers setting forth probable cause that judge.
I -- all your counsel and give him a pass here but I do so with and tell him I'm absolutely -- -- Holtz by people who.
Well look this is.
Situation unacceptable behavior.
And the question -- Where to go from here.
I think the fewer.
Has had a very good effect I really believe.
That at the Vera released.
McVeigh will refrain from removed from this type of access.
And this type of abuse.
In the future I think that's likely.
Remember we're talking about here talking about a leak investigation.
Have their role.
But they were never supposed to be the central focus.
It's something that that trumps everything else.
And it's only if you believe.
That it is so important that we've got to get the guy that done -- etc.
that we're ready to say this are ready to say that we're ready to say that.
But you can even understand it except.
As I was you know with total indifference to the First Amendment.
And total indifference.
Being up front.
With the court that you're appearing before.
And the people user and the -- and the people of the country yeah.
It's always great to have you here the decision on your words tonight should disquiet I would think -- White House and an attorney general.
Hopefully to the point.
-- -- Thank you very much -- and our congratulations.
On your new book.
It will be out tomorrow it is friend of the court and talk about a friend of the court that man is Floyd Abrams.
It goes on sale tomorrow on line -- and and bookstores all across go to Lou Dobbs dot com we have links as well.
-- friend of the court.
Privilege to do -- and enthusiastically.
And recommend the book to.
-- back thank you.
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