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Stop -- from warships to -- apart we have watched a lot of big names CEOs get dragged through the mud by bad press scandals.
But should really be losing -- their leadership abilities we got our own money.
We -- gonna buy sell or hold some of the big.
Names in business today Jonathan Hoenig.
Is portfolio manager capitalist -- dot com is also got Fox News contributors with us or he's a Fox News contributor we also with us Hilary -- -- president.
And chief investment officer.
And ANG capital and anti -- is the founder of up capital management all right thanks all of you for joining us.
Would you Hamas because this kind of what got us thinking on this -- -- that here you have a guy.
Who has an incredible track record he's got PayPal he's got -- slot and solar city which are on fire right now whatever you think of the company's -- -- stockholder you.
Absolutely love them he's got SpaceX he's blasting an outer space he's without question a genius.
And just a pack her bags and -- -- -- I'm good mix well this is here -- yes.
Or is he back Hillary what do you think -- holding Hamas strong by really Elon -- is so innovative what he's done with -- he's -- a real company with no -- products he's paid back the government their loan and yes he has all his vision but so did Steve Jobs and I really think that one day we're gonna look back and look at Elon -- and put him in that same category -- some of the great innovators and leaders and technology in this country John I think she said eclipses crazy.
Now I mean you could still have that hole -- and deep but many Canadians -- a genius -- I'm.
Wanna be careful of calling must go crazy -- he is -- habit -- taking to Twitter and -- lambasting his critics and I wouldn't area over a flat patch it if he tweeted anything about -- averages diet happiness.
-- he is the tremendous debater I think Hillary is is am I correct in that sense -- worry that.
I just often not only putting his own money on the line but also taxpayer money -- -- version out of the -- he has paid that back.
I gave him a strong -- but I think I wouldn't buy the stock here.
I think it's on -- yeah.
-- -- -- It is pretty high up there anti what do you think I saw hold -- Well I really like he lawn hey you know anyone gets characterized and makes a movie -- based on his character of Iron Man three with to -- -- I'd much.
Schumer DNY so that's pretty fat and yeah better feeling you got -- behind him let's on the Jamie -- yes.
You know this is somebody in the financial crisis I mean it was 1800 diamond on the brain -- we trust you know -- is forever.
Every -- he could possibly come up with and it is like shot bright all of a sudden we're gonna rip him down.
Because he had been to worship one mistake along the way and all of a sudden a pricey one more diamond in the rough but the bottom of the screen I'm gonna -- it.
What -- -- what do you think this guy Hillary I let you go first buy -- -- Jamie Dimon.
Another strong buy here Jamie Dimon either he's going to stay JPMorgan.
And he's gonna keep building this company where he has improved the balance sheet -- improve the credit situation -- and in this whole problem with him being too powerful too strong and splitting his position up that's -- in the past.
As well as this one -- With the whale trading in -- and risk management actually you know playing with them with the firm's money -- studied -- probably anywhere Jamie Dimon is.
Excellent at empowering management at risk management and and doing things like getting the government to pay him to take on Bear Stearns and he's immune to any risk that -- and it's brilliant -- -- he doesn't stay -- -- go somewhere else and be more power.
Jonathan what do you think about it was especially brilliant to sort of leak out of -- -- well you have you don't want me to be chairman I don't need to be CEO either I'll just.
Go -- -- something -- -- -- I don't need the money I don't need to do and all of a sudden everybody you know.
Found religion and realize that this was a really bad idea -- -- around the best you buy sell or hold -- diamond.
-- body by.
Be crazy to let him go I mean -- that he is -- target of course right he's a successful businessman is as successful I mean Theres always an easy target for everyone from from government didn't -- newspaper headline writers but I think Hillary once again hit the nail on the head and a terrific CEO he's done great for JPMorgan.
I wouldn't bet against the -- care either it's extremely strong as interest rates go up -- net interest margin for banks goes up as well.
It's a strong spot right here I can't everything I saw -- -- got.
Yes I agree with Hillary and Jonathan and and keep in mind the 2008 crisis weren't we know we're years away from it but how quickly we forget that.
The 2008 -- it was was terrific and he was a beacon of light.
In fact his firm was considered one of the healthiest of the nine largest banks that received TARP.
Have you used can't look at the -- set overlooking.
Anytime someone -- -- I think that was too easy for the group it's -- homeland.
In this somebody he's either the greatest trader of all time.
Words you know something less legal depending on everything that's going out yet -- -- you don't know anything's.
Yet but there's a lot of controversy around that so it's so you -- John let me start with you.
Why sell their whole -- for -- On this trip did strong buy a mean ten plus years of 20% returns and his.
He's -- -- not worried about the returns came from you're not worried about the redemption that are going on right now you're not worried about him what are they having to become apparently opposite masks.
I -- not -- but I think -- fortunately he's been made a scapegoat by insider trading laws which is completely non objective completely arbitrary if that school of government to punish successful businessman so strong -- and Steve -- and strong sell on the SEC okay.
Hillary what do you think.
Stevie Cohen is brilliant he has created -- single handedly a -- form of hedge fund management.
And he's really successful -- doesn't matter everywhere redeemed he's still -- ten million dollars making go off and manage it.
And I even respect the fact -- Stevie Cohen he's not a marketer he really sits in front of his screens all day and I love that about him and I wish I had money was.
Edie Cohen well he's he's getting 3% at 50% of the profits cedar you don't need to go on advertising and -- -- -- -- dollars all day.
Anti what do you think.
Well they have to deviate from the girl here thank god -- if I would if I was Steve Cohen I'd be very happy I took twenty million in 1992 -- nine billion.
In that time period but.
The wake of the problems that are taking place right now you can't ignore that and part of looking at who we're gonna invest into.
Are the -- visionary are -- able to keep everybody in in a good compliant situation and be able to grow and enjoy either profits.
This this one probably has low marks for me.
OK we got to -- real quick on -- last one Ron Johnson.
Ron Johnson is -- you know he's had a fascinating past -- target tar Jay you know ostensibly -- -- the hip cool place that a lot of people wanna shop.
Total failure JC Penney but then some say maybe -- just wasn't given -- time.
Is he genius or was it all hype this one's hard we're gonna go lightning round anti -- you go first.
Yes Ron Johnson is a case study of moving out of his strengths in the into an area that he's not strong -- -- leaves apple with a very successful career.
Any moves in the JC Penney and maybe he was a little overconfident maybe he felt like he didn't need to do all -- Is that now I can see it -- she -- the FR OK yes Hillary don't you think he's his cell runs on a 111 year old -- in seventeen months practically destroyed it because he didn't even understand who is just aren't Smart he isn't everybody -- -- Hillary JC -- event.
I think that John defer the firm was in shambles the permanent channel before Johnson got there I column Abaya is -- that most of the world.
Now at apple yeah.
But isn't -- -- go gaming company would be very happy to have Ron Johnson on their border and there's the Yeltsin despite what happened at DC.
-- tell me rob quit -- I don't think because we haven't supported the board he had all the money -- he had everything that Ron Johnson needed to be -- that's the -- -- the -- many years.
Ironically the only kid I look forward everyday low prices he didn't get it and he spent more time on private -- -- -- right but he looks so happy in that photo of him that we are again thank you guys are great candidate come back we got to do this again it was front right.
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