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President Obama meets with China's president G -- paying up later this week many say that side back slapping each hacking should be the top of the agenda.
For ambassador to the UN John Bolton joins his right now I guess it's a clash of the titans the the number one guy from both of the two leading economists do we have any leverage on China.
I think we've got substantial leverage and I think people who say that China's holdings of Americans dead in the trade imbalance.
Give them more leverage I think misunderstand the complexity of the sort of bilateral economic relationship we have when -- This closely tied our purchases their goods their purchase of our debt.
It's very risky for one side worthy that to try and use economic pressure what is it got a bit now you've got the -- hacking.
Well this is a different -- stolen.
-- secret I think this is very different and I think this goes to the question of what what is the character of the regime in Beijing you know the mythology in the American government and the business community is that China is engaged in a peaceful rise.
And it's going to be a responsible stakeholder in world affairs.
This cyber hacking along with a lot of other.
Really offensive Chinese behavior shows that this is far from a piece of guys we got laughs and I think most Americans would agree with you.
But the question stands what should President Obama say to the Chinese hate quitting it or else walks.
Well I think he should certainly say acquitted and the Chinese will deny they're doing it which proves this discussion is not -- in the past goodness -- -- it or else and then you'll like what's the or else well or else is we need better.
Cyber warfare defensive capabilities and better cyber warfare offensive capabilities.
Because -- -- we're prepared to play at the same level as the Chinese we can't protect our secrets whether they be government secrets or commercial secrets.
And we can threaten them with -- possibility that we can do the same when you don't think that we have offensive side the weapons I think we had some I think we're way behind the net was partly ours wasn't that mean I certainly -- I certainly hope so we are right but but I don't think there's any doubt analysts will tell you that.
China is the most advanced the most sophisticated cyber network for country on -- do you think that President Obama -- -- he's going -- what -- -- do it out but -- that's interest that has problems that's a problem with President Obama and it's a problem that that goes throughout his entire foreign and defense policy I don't think the Chinese think whatever he says is going to be credible.
And I think able simply continuing and not just in cyberspace they'll do it in.
Anti space weapons and anti access area denial weapons in the Pacific and building up their fleet in making assertive.
Territorial claims in the South China Sea across vital international C -- President Obama would win with the American public if he took us than -- that quit.
Well he'll be tough rhetorically but that's the extent of his presidency it's all about rhetoric there there isn't any substance behind it congress needs to step in here will be in real trouble and 120 years ambassador John Bolton thank you very much indeed thank you -- --
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