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Well to Bernie -- its.
Founder Bernie Marcus.
Who says mark this down this thing is now out of control it really is very when -- -- and it's.
Well it's not a big shock to -- Neal and it goes way beyond that we're talking about conservative groups.
And I think that the problem with the IRS is -- much more.
Deeply ingrained in what's happening in -- world you don't -- you and I've had conversations over the years.
And I think about a year ago I started to have you.
That in -- working with his creation of the job creators alliance site you know which is that we're trying to get business people together small business people.
Up people who don't have lobbyists in Washington.
And I've spent I don't know now two years talking to business people both.
And I anybody who basically doesn't have a lobbyist Libya have a thousand employees down to somebody -- fifty employees.
And there's a those people who -- running businesses that are significant so let's say I have 500 employees 700 toys.
And I go to them and I say what do you think about this job here is alliance and they say a great idea it's a wonderful idea.
And then they say but I kid I got to be very careful I can't do -- might say why and they say because they gonna get me.
And I say who's gonna get to and they say you know the government I have never ever in my experience and I've been around a long time -- And I've been the business world -- for you know since nineteen you know sixty.
I've never seen business people afraid of big government before -- went on a web page.
Say Bernie -- -- were a big prominent Democrat.
Would or any of those who want to be involved work would they encountered the same.
I right now under this that under this administration know.
No but I think that anybody -- -- speaks out.
Now I -- -- example if you go out that you speak about.
The cost of obamacare.
If you go out tell the truth and by the way -- -- seven have talked to somebody businesspeople.
And they of all said to the following committee.
We are not hiring full time employees we're hiring part time employees but don't let that get out now we don't want the -- to get out and I say why did they say.
You know why they'll get me now that's paranoia.
But you know what you have to have paranoia when you're dealing with people like this so.
They're afraid of the IRS.
They're afraid of the SEC.
They are afraid of the PA they're afraid of the NLRB.
It all comes from big government and it all comes from.
You know the pressures that have that are being brought on them politically so I I think it's a scary kind of a situation and I hope that congress stays on it.
I hope they don't back off because this is a serious problem for all of America's but I -- -- I mean it.
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