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At least you don't battle at Starbucks this Bill Nye the Science Guy did you notice that fantastic all right a legal battle at Starbucks is reaching its tipping point.
Upper -- -- -- squaring off in court against salaried employees like shift supervisors.
Over who -- dip into the stores it -- the -- does feel shortchanged.
By the supervisors say they're entitled to the tips to.
Is that not money in those tip jars to be suing Oprah that's I'm wondering we hit the streets to see how many people -- -- -- While you -- the Starbucks.
I don't McDonald's they just they just gave me my my hamburger why -- -- -- I give them I -- -- You didn't -- them right now.
Yeah they have a cup there seems to -- I never thought yeah.
Their company okay joining me now issue -- at least -- then.
Attorney for the -- -- Shannon thanks so much for being on the show.
-- the question here.
Money are we talking about I mean I feel like there's not enough money in this to justify class action lawsuit.
Now it it's a lot of money people do -- out Starbucks and other coffee shops.
And Starbucks is so big it it comes to millions of dollars really millions of dollars a day a year -- I mean really what are we talking about.
No -- over the course of -- numbered years when it comes to is basically about two dollars per hour per employee.
And when you're someone who's making close to minimum wage a little higher than now weighed about two or three dollars an hour means a lot -- the class action lawsuit is to.
-- status -- precedent but then it's also you're actually suing Starbucks for money that would be distributed to all these employees from Starbucks.
-- yes exactly what the fight is about it's not employees against other employees it's Currie says against Starbucks because the question is can -- use all that money customers do put the tip jars.
Offset the pay for -- supervisors in Massachusetts the courts ruled that they cannot do that.
So that the reason why -- supervisors.
Think that they have a stake in this.
Are they have a right to it is because they say that would be they serve food and drinks to the customers just like the priest is -- -- And they say that they spend 90% of their time doing the exact same task as the priest as in other words.
But not just a manager walking around in making sure everyone's doing their job they're actually doing the same function.
90% of the time how do you -- that argument.
Yes they do and and Starbucks on words they they're the ones on the floor who run the ship.
They managed -- -- and so and restaurants you'll see it.
Managers will help out with customer service owners -- restaurants will serve customers -- help -- table.
But a lot of doesn't look at who participate in service.
The loss sets of -- That protects employees that simply as a policy matter says managers and supervisors should be paid by the employer.
Not out of the tip pool.
So in Massachusetts we we won a case in Massachusetts the courts ruled -- Shift supervisors cannot share in the temple and you know what happened.
Starbucks took them out of its simple and it's been reported that they raised their pay by almost three dollars an hour -- everyone wins all the employees when.
-- -- how there's hits last diluted well they got more of them.
But CNET money doesn't -- because I don't whereas and I don't think everybody wins because of Starbucks has to pay the money.
That comes from somewhere so that comes for me because I'm a customer so they're just gonna raise I -- -- even higher.
I think that money comes from Howard Schultz -- pocket yeah.
That's -- -- -- it isn't public company doesn't come from one guy's pocket it comes from the shareholder.
And you know what the shareholders still wants the same returns every quarter so really comes from the customer and that's the reason why the coffee at Starbucks cost five bucks a cup.
Because about I was like yes.
Well the question is -- the policy.
-- decision for the legislature to make.
It it protects the lowest rung of the hierarchy by ensuring that they get protected and they get the -- not -- and it's just everyone -- restaurant industry everyone who works the hospitality industry.
I understand the concept.
That managers even though they help out with service are not supposed to share in the typical.
-- everybody -- that level prices have to go up as a result in fewer customers come in and there's less traffic so there's less tips and that ultimately there's less jobs.
All right -- keep us that what happens it's a very interesting case to watch and we appreciate your time.
Thank -- it is arm.
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