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On the IRS scandal going on for a few weeks now we've been -- -- -- you know what the foremost authority on taxation has to say about it.
His name is Grover Norquist say frequent guest on this program but until now mute on the issue of the IRS can handle.
Opened up and -- look a -- what do you think.
It we've seen this before.
I served on the commission that congressionally sponsored debt commission.
Back in the nineties the commission on restructuring the IRS.
Put together a response to IRS agent flipping through the tax returns of people from Hollywood I had had violated privacy.
And -- that we had the guy from the IRS it did talk to our commission.
I headed up by senator Bob Kerrey that of that Nebraska.
And congressman Rob Portman congressman that from Ohio.
And I asked the question I said look I've talked to my conservative friends.
Betty these groups should be -- I've talked to my left of center friends -- -- any of your friends being audited doubt I said.
It's my sample but why don't you share with me how you make these decisions.
And convince me that it's not what it looks like.
And his response was you really -- have to trust us to hunt at which point at senator -- I think we've really exhausted this issue let's move on.
This time around there's a Republican House.
That is not going to allow this into let's move on but we need to get to the bottom of -- because it happens too often.
But it's going to be end up on the back bona for much of the Sama granted the house has an ongoing investigation.
But that gives everybody excuse to site.
I can't talk about this because it's under investigation and if they appoint a special prosecutor.
There's definitely nothing going to be leaked a couple of years and it'd just -- -- way down the road.
Some of the people who -- targets of these investigations.
They can speak both individuals.
And it's very -- to the administration to attack the Tea Party.
Organizations as a wonderful Ph.D.
thesis that was put out recently.
By some folks now over -- ATI which point out that where there were Tea Party rallies compared to where it rained and there wasn't a rally.
You shot billions more voters turn out.
In those areas where you have the Tea Party active war -- raged for conservative I got -- that's crucial.
That is absolutely crucial because my point is there's been for a long time that the machinery of government was used to affect the election -- -- it wasn't just the virus it was but it was the EPA.
It was disaster relief funds it was across the board the seemed to be.
Machinery of government trying to suppress the vote for conservatives all being be targeting Republicans intimidating conservatives.
I think it was a broad based effort whether or not it's related to the campaign -- the -- House that's another story entirely fact is it happened.
I was in Chicago.
When this was blowing up do it meeting with Republican legislators said had.
Party officials and -- -- raise extra money for the Republican Party out there and state legislators had.
I've never been nodded until I got elected to the state legislature that I was nodded at everybody in the room that's yeah of course that's what happens here in Chicago.
Here in Illinois it's that.
Ethic that the government -- -- is to be used for political purposes.
That the people around Obama.
Many of the ship from Chicago brought to Washington DC this is not the data -- -- good government crowd.
This is Chicago.
Grover Norquist we appreciate you coming on the show and telling us exactly what I think about this and please don't go away because.
Well I don't wanna see this go on to the backbone for the --
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