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-- the legislation.
My first guest tonight voted no he says the bill is bad for workers taxpayers and American public safety joining us.
Senator Jeff Sessions member of the Judiciary Committee.
And numerous others including armed services and budget senator great to have you with us.
Are you follow a long and hard battle against this legislation now moves to the war.
-- worms in your opinion it will either succeed or fail which -- Well we'll have to depend on the American people to make their voices heard in the pay attention to the facts not what we need to know it is.
That this would legalize over the next ten years.
Thirty million people.
About three -- well we would normally legalize -- decades.
It's going to have a working Americans this is.
Far far too many low skill workers that are going to take jobs and pulled down wages of people unemployed and underemployed right now.
It's really really dangerous is gone ahead.
Dump trillions to the long term financial cost of the United States treasury from welfare and other benefits.
And it will not work.
Both -- two other major unions who represented.
The law enforcement -- is that we'll have to.
And -- this bill have told us -- will not work it will make things worse it will weaken our our enforcement.
And and not threaten the national security.
We need don't listen to what they're telling us we believe in immigration and all of us do.
We all believe that we need to make this legal system -- a member of immigration better.
This bill just does not do it it can't pass in this form.
What do you say to those people that suggests there is something Darwinian in all of this.
That if a country and its people don't have enough energy -- care.
To defend its borders to her claim its sovereign -- For its citizens.
Of that then the result is actually if you will.
You know a foregone conclusion.
And that in the -- in the nation is in the hands of a new generation.
How do you react to that.
Lou I think we need to ask some questions here along that land line do is that congress representing.
I just saw a report that -- 800 people spent the night for five days and nights in in planes waiting for job.
Ideas are important Philadelphia they expected a thousand people who had a conviction on their record to come for jobs in 3000 showed up.
And people -- looking for work in America.
That's -- we -- our -- to do first we need to be helping our people get work.
Get off welfare get off food stamps get out there and have that independents that comes from.
I've been able to take care of a family and have a retirement plan and health care that's not happening we just can't absorb.
This many new workers and we need to have no -- -- to stand up and articulate that.
Yeah it's it's strange to me senator that you and iron we've talked many times or during the course of 2006 and 2007.
In the last several -- -- McCain Kennedy or Kennedy McCain legislation of that era.
Here we are talking seven.
Six years later.
And the answer so aren't there.
We have the charity should report we have.
Douglas Holtz -- -- with his his view and others there's a great divide in the -- among conservatives.
We don't know any more about who the people are who were in this country illegally we don't know any more about than their numbers.
We don't know who any in any more about their -- biography.
And by the way that means it neither side.
Neither those who it's seek to secure the border.
Into managed carefully.
As well as those who seek to open the borders amnesty.
-- the intellectual rigor of actually knowing what we're talking about we don't know what it's really going to cost we don't know -- will really be in the country when it's all said and done.
We don't know what the effect will be on our borders we don't know what the effect is bad.
Because we know through them we know for a fact half of the people coming across -- border are not apprehended.
We have it's just an extraordinary.
That has persisted without benefit -- frankly.
Tremendous -- search.
And knowledge on the part of the senators who we send to Washington to represent us the congressman and the president is it's really remarkable.
It really is Larry I asked last week and again -- today -- senator -- The prime pusher of the bill how many people would be legalized under this bill.
He walked side.
I mean they will not even say how many people are going to be covered by how can we pass some major reform when we don't understand that.
And -- no study has been done on the economic -- it just how many workers we really need.
On the trip is a civil rights to civil rights commission members have said that we have a surplus of low skilled labor.
That's who we need to be getting into work.
And off that tendency.
So I'm I'm really.
I'm relieved that there's way too little thought and.
Such a serious piece of legislation.
And I don't wanna say senator I know that you have been the the focus of numerous attacks I just -- to share some of the language.
-- -- were out of time I just want to the audience to know.
Because you're sort of up and you -- present -- your view.
You have been have been in opposition to this legislation.
You've done so -- and forthrightly.
-- abortion post attacking you I have to say -- Milbank.
-- he begins a piece by saying not since George Wallace perhaps as an Alabama.
Been taken had taken his -- stand for a lost cause is the one Jeff Sessions is taking now.
And then I got that's.
Terrible sensation that that nobody was trying to make a different point and one that probably isn't too flattering to him.
He said sessions shouted in his trade -- -- the wiry southerner.
The petulant Alabama.
The only probable -- came from the man from Alabama do you think he was trying to make a point of some sort there.
What I do and in -- but for others to have a tactic if it is sorted and nasty stuff.
And it's obviously the result of work coordinated attacks are against you.
Who the good people of Alabama.
I'm I'm sure appreciate the integrity you've displayed.
Irrespective of -- the attacks -- -- by the way turn out to be a badge of honor for you or even though you lost the battle in committee.
The fight his before us on the floor.
Voters always -- it.
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