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Again another frequent guest on this program.
The U and its -- -- from Iowa senator Chuck Grassley -- We just feel watching some real drama on full -- just threw a couple of hundred yards away from you I suspect.
That this has broken open the IRS scandal even mall -- reaction so.
Of course it has but I think you gotta look at this whole scandal has a scandal much bigger.
Then -- investigation of ideological political -- it goes to the very culture.
Of this organization and to some extent.
The culture of government generally so I don't want to just say IRS is -- one that has this problem.
By government is a major problem today and it's particularly acute.
In the IRS and the questions they ask of these ideological groups -- just an example of that intimidation and it reminds me of the intimidation.
Towards small business that led to the last restructuring.
Commission that I served on of the IRS in 1998 when we issued -- report.
And presumably did some things to stop -- intimidation I think maybe we did was small business but -- we obviously didn't know what in the area of nonprofit.
Hours before ms.
-- and -- counsel would dismissed from the hearing room.
A Democrat from Massachusetts.
Congressman Lynch he said look.
If we don't get out questions answered.
I want a special independent prosecutor appointed now this is from a Democrat from Massachusetts I think -- breaks open new ground so.
Well I believe that if we can't get.
Congressional oversight work in the ways most of -- And we don't get the emails and the other information we need are the executive branch of government and if there is particularly if there is suspect.
Of criminal activity.
Yes you do need a special prosecutor.
Can I ask this question because it's it's what our viewers want to answer.
Do you believe so mister senator do you believe that the machinery of government was used.
During the election campaign to benefit the Obama campaign.
The only I don't have any evidence of that coming from the Obama campaign.
Or from the White House -- from the president.
Now at this point are you -- as part of what this investigation might be about.
But for sure.
There -- democratic members of congress.
Asking the -- asked to investigate this and they all.
Tended to be from left of senator sort brings up that suspicion that somebody had.
Political activity in mind but I wouldn't accuse the White House summit -- -- let's understand this.
Can't be about political activity or political.
Advantage for anybody doing the investigation this has to be about the intellectual.
Guess honesty -- people would say they're gonna be the most transparent government in the history of our country.
And that's what the president said January 21 2009.
And that is an opening up the way that they showed according to their own standard.
So -- Grassley -- thank you for joining us on a very busy day for everybody.
A we appreciate -- so thank you thank you so.
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