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So does the -- scandal make a case for a flat tax on my next guest certainly thinks that it -- me now sports media chairman and editor in chief Steve Forbes.
Always a pleasure thank you so much for joining us thank you of course you ran for president in 96 and 2000 with what -- -- -- -- you've made a name for yourself calling for.
A flat tax you even tweeting responding to our chief Rupert Murdoch who said growing.
IRS scandal makes perfect case for flat tax nothing could be fair and abuse free clearly agree with that.
The power of the IRS -- some complexity of the code they can go after anyone that can find anything about you if they want to.
With a simple flat tax.
-- a single rate.
Deductions for adults and for children and that's it you could literally do it and if you look strokes on the keyboard or -- single page.
That removes of thousands of agents don't have to have any more you can do the same thing on the business side simplicity is the best enemy of the abuse of power.
But what about who decides on who gets this or does anybody at all.
Achieve this nonprofit status where their tax exempt I mean that's really the crux of this right because if it's a person determining.
That I -- the nights the nice thing ma and for nice thing about the flat tax is with a low rate.
You don't have these deductions anymore just for adults and for children.
So you don't have to worry about what some mortgage you don't have to worry about what's a home office must you have a business.
It just is very simple if you make it you pay it so charitable organizations forget political organizations but charities that I have to pay taxes on -- your flat tax proposal.
They've they've they that terms of the real thing with the charities is the contributions tax free that's for the iris gets the power.
And under the a flat tax that goes away.
And for those who worry -- that this will love mean the end of charities experience shows -- you have a low simple right and people have more they give more.
And so well that's that's the way to go -- remove all of these things that give -- power.
One of the east side bars that's developing in light at this -- scandals it deepens his his handful.
Conservative commentators -- are coming forward and suggesting.
Gosh I was just contacted by the IRS I wonder if it was a coincidence he weigh in at all on that you've heard of any incidences.
I think a more and more coming out and people who have been going through a horrific audits.
Are now going to be asking themselves is this because I said something did something gave something.
That to put me on the of this a vastly expanding enemies list.
And the and the fact is that I think that is.
Even if the IRS didn't have -- directions from the top.
They knew the administration who they're enemies list was.
And they also know that these conservative organizations want a reduced or eliminated IRS.
So just self preservation you're gonna go after them not those who think he should get bigger Sierra about big government.
Big government needs big tax collector.
And the IRS knows small government small IRS.
Well here's the question you know on the side of the IRS now I mean there's always tax fraud and tax cheats they're under such intense scrutiny right now is.
The I have -- ball in the sense where they're just not able to do that part of their job.
Well with a 100000 agents if you can't do a job because some people did some abuse of things inside that organization.
That and one cent should be good news it'll be less oppression the American people but in terms of vote fraud there is real fraud and that shouldn't be.
Mixed up with politics and are you on the wrong side of the political divide and they come after you or you don't like the IRS so they come after you.
And so as we leave it -- Steve on carries her reaction to breaking news of the weekend at a White House lawyer -- of this weeks ago.
And didn't tell the present and it wouldn't make of the White House reaction now weeks into this scandals it develops.
Yeah it's amazing the president apparently didn't know anything about anything in November -- -- he didn't who the IRS certainly fear anything else.
In one sense no.
But the real scandal is.
Officials knew in 2012 before the election this stuff was going on and they let it happen like steroids in baseball they know what was happening they let it happen.
Fascinating comparison Steve Forbes thank you so much for showing you might thank -- -- -- --
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