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Thank you very much well for more on both the IRS send a -- scandals and what it means for president Obama's second term agenda -- joined now by Fox News political analyst Juan Williams -- thank you as always for joining us.
Look I mean how different would you I've described the president's reaction so far to -- he seems to be a leader on the sidelines I didn't really know anything about the Associated Press monitoring I didn't know anything about the IRS.
I mean he's giving the impression of administration that's out of control using its power in an abusive manner and yet he's trying to distance himself from all of the scandal but it just makes him appear debate.
A leader who is frankly little clueless.
I think that there's this clear sense that he's on the sidelines here.
I guess I differ with your description of him -- involved with -- administration -- abuse of a power.
The question is whether or not there is any concrete evidence of abuse of power as opposed to simple you know and bad.
Conduct by some people lower down that's what you're hearing from the White House is so far.
That it IRS officials you know in Cincinnati some here in DC.
But not at any direct not in any -- directly linked to the White House or even to treasury which oversees the IRS.
Yet but the fact the top -- on that takes the bullet at the end of the day so to speak I mean.
You know this champion of civil liberties that got President Obama was supposed to be it's really hard -- -- kind of trust anything now right.
-- you know I you know I I I'm struggling with this I tell you as -- the talking to you because.
The fact is that you have a situation where all of us as Americans would want the country protected against.
The kind of airplane explosion that al-Qaeda apparently had in mind in the AP's story.
And the leaks -- Republicans and Democrats were condemning leaks and that the administration needed to be more aggressive and we certainly saw that toward the end of the bush years.
Has been picked up to a -- the well by the Obama folks.
But eight as a reporter talking to you let me just say it is chilling that our sources all of a sudden feel is that they're gonna go to jail.
We're simply telling us what's going on in our own government not that's clearly crazy.
John -- in his speech today saying look I don't know what's gonna have -- just want to know who's gonna end up in jail he's -- really think that's gonna happen.
Probably not but what about the remedy here what all the repercussions could there be someone in a high ranking position that's gonna get the boot.
Sure I think you know you when you look at -- you have to look at it from a political crisis management perspective and firing people typically is the blood -- required in this -- that we call Washington.
So that looks to me like something that's inevitable the question is who is that and right now Republicans are pressing for the attorney general's -- Eric Holder.
But I suspect that they're also going to.
-- go after the acting head of IRS and then lowered down.
People who -- were in charge of this program.
That in instituted this watch for Tea Party you know patriot a light.
Throughout the government it looks to me like we're headed that direction you know there's a lot of calls now maybe just to stop funding to the IRS of course everyone at this point.
-- well aware that.
I was -- mean -- to health care coming up and down the -- great they're gonna know you're not report your health care to the IRS.
If the funding is stuck to the IRS does that kind of put Obama can act as a whole basically back on the table.
-- off the table I should say.
We've got -- now I think you know it's pretty transparent here that people who don't like obamacare trying to use the RS scandal.
You know it enactment of obamacare but it's just not real.
There was an editorial this morning in the Wall Street Journal making the case that why would we give more authority to the IRS.
Given that they apparently have abuse that authority.
In terms of this increased scrutiny of conservative groups.
But the question that bit -- still on the table Tracy as well.
So who would do it because you look we all know that we report for Social Security Medicare Medicaid veterans' benefits and disability all the rest.
Somebody's gonna have to do it and if there's no way in which you could envision at this point with Obama in the White House and Democrats in control of the senate.
That obamacare is going to be repealed.
Very quickly one I guess is not a surprise but he doesn't have the president that is doesn't have the best relationship with.
House Democrats and no one's really rushing to his defense are you struck by of that.
I am I think that what you see even from senate majority leader Harry Reid is condemnation in terms.
Both the -- -- scandal and I think it's telling.
You know what's been going on with the IRS so.
You see -- Democrats here in a sense kind of you know we if we start this conversation.
Talking about how the presidency to be on the sidelines.
-- house Democrats are moving away from him even as he's standing on the sideline.
They don't want anything to deal with -- these big issues the civil liberties issue in terms of -- and with the IRS scandal.
So that isn't really troubling for a president who's trying to get such an aggressive agenda through the congress he needs.
Those Democrats to be clear that they are with him.
And with the mid term elections approaching it looks like they've decided in many cases that is to their advantage.
To stand apart from President Obama.
-- -- times Juan Williams thank you so much for joining us we appreciate it.
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