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Now sort of completely different next guest runs a family owned -- stuff business which has been operating out of California since the 1930s.
His long term lease expired last year and he says it's not being -- -- because of a big fight with environmentalists.
Here is -- Kevin Loney.
I would -- bay oyster company Kevin welcome the program.
As I see -- the environmentalists.
Want complete wilderness.
Any form of farming law and resource.
Usage is that -- and it -- I got that right.
Well that's what it appears.
Unfortunately it's based on a false premise that there are some sort of environmental harm.
What what are they saying what I say in the you'd do to the environment that they don't like.
Well that made claims that.
Were harming the environment by making noise -- damage as the soundscape.
And also that.
Disturbed harbor seals out in the -- out in the resource where we grow the oysters.
That's what day -- National Park Service did a study in environmental impact statement.
And now we have found that both of those claims which are the only claims -- harm.
Are both false as a matter of fact today.
Scientific misconduct claim was charged against the second and sent to the secretary of the interior secretary jewel.
For misconduct around the falsification.
-- harbor seal disturbance data.
-- at the end of the day.
Have you got enough money to fight him in court.
Well actually have to tell yeah you call this a family owned farm which it is.
But it's really a community battle the entire north bay have the San Cisco Bay Area.
Have rallied around us.
Four separate law firms are working with that's completely pro Bono.
Without that sort of help this wonderful community we would have been driven out of business.
Before now last won a -- new.
That you'll lease was coming to an end last year you knew that in advance when you signed a lease in the first place you -- you going to be that -- will be ending.
And in 2012.
That is correct.
That lease is the same as all the leases of all the ranchers surrounding.
-- a sterile where our -- is it's explicitly renewable.
All the ranchers have been renewed.
And we are hopeful that they oyster -- be treated like everyone else.
And we would be able to remain in the working landscapes and the middle of the part -- national -- -- Well we -- and keep in touch with you Kevin to make I wanna see how this thing comes out I mean.
Can they put you out of business we want and -- come on back real soon okay Kevin Loney from northern California thank you get.
Thank you for having me anything to add to -- I am just it's shocking what if they have to -- small or -- that level and that's that's bigger pressing problems they don't want you to do anything.
In an outside via an in the great outdoors don't do anything.
If you make a noise you would disturbing somebody's habitat you can't do that what did you total -- us and humans have no role left -- so we can.
That's not a tenable position.
It clearly is there really residents it's it's it's completely outrageous and you wonder where it stops in but it did right now they've got this momentum in the hubris behind him yet.
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